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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:17 pm 
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lilconquer wrote:
ok dude im not arguing with every single detail you know what this is meant for sand you are here just trying to put in a million other factors

I'm just pointing out few flaws in this Gentlemen's Agreement and this is a bad thing? :shock:

Fine, if you want to go on with a plan that is flawed right at the beginning then so be it.

I, in the other hand, prefer plans that are thoroughly disscussed and any flaws are woven out, before going ahead and implement the plan.

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:18 pm 
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it's called personal judgement. it's not a suggestion that every1 has to follow all the time

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:23 pm 
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Aeacus wrote:
I have a question about this Gentlemen's Agreement.

If opponent get's heat lockdown (looses both his 2 action points due to overheating), will any of you, who agreed to be part of this Gentlemen's Agreement, also skip your turn (e.g. you cool down yourself twice)?

According to the Gentlemen's Agreement ("If opponent skips his turn, i'll also skip my turn."), if you're truly a gentlemen and like to have a fair play, you should also skip your turn.

Though, i doubt that any of you would do that under those circumstances.

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That is not a skipped turn in the context that is present in this conversation, that is a tactic with which you overpower your opponent. This thread is talking about extenuating circumstances causing them to be unable to move during their turn, not them making a decision to not cool down when the should have and costing themselves the match.

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:36 pm 
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Korupt wrote:
That is not a skipped turn in the context that is present in this conversation, that is a tactic with which you overpower your opponent. This thread is talking about extenuating circumstances causing them to be unable to move during their turn, not them making a decision to not cool down when the should have and costing themselves the match.

So, if i understand you correctly, this Gentlemen's Agreement is only and only when opponent experiences lag timeout.

But how to understand lag timeout from those times when opponent couldn't decide what to do in their 15-20 seconds time?

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 9:38 pm 
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Aeacus wrote:
So, if i understand you correctly, this Gentlemen's Agreement is only and only when opponent experiences lag timeout.

But how to understand lag timeout from those times when opponent couldn't decide what to do in their 15-20 seconds time?

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:05 am 
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Most of these people lagging your timer out are either exploiting the system, or don't care and will take the advantage. I'm not going to run into someone with this agreement any time soon. If my opponent is lagging my timer, I'll open the largest file on my computer, lag myself, and exploit them if they don't shut down or wait.

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:09 am 
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KlassikKiller wrote:
Most of these people lagging your timer out are either exploiting the system, or don't care and will take the advantage. I'm not going to run into someone with this agreement any time soon. If my opponent is lagging my timer, I'll open the largest file on my computer, lag myself, and exploit them if they don't shut down or wait.


Eh... That is the wrong way to do it... Just because an opponent is lagging does not mean they are doing it to mess you up.

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:28 am 
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To respond to Aeacus: I generally operate how 00Nick00's first post suggested. I think the best rule of thumb is to do it when there is a reasonable expectation the other player was unable to move based on lag (but also possible, indecisive). As 00Nick00 also points out, it is basically a judgement call. Otherwise, if you have no reasonable expectation that lag caused the other player to be skipped, just go for it. The last thing we want to create in this community is a new form of judgement based on players not honoring the "gentlemen's agreement" when the situation really was hard to call.

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 6:41 am 
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lilconquer wrote:
unless the match is a total blow out then i normally will do this anyway. but i have yet to get the same respect in return. and deflower youd never take just 1 turn when we are at the same level and i only start out with 1 :roll:


well now you did make that thread about beating me so I've to make sure it doesn't happen again :lol:

so, this is what I think we should agree on: same levels get one turn in the beginning. this is the game rules, and getting 2 turns is a glitch. I am prepared to give this for of respect to everyone who will return the favor

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 Post subject: Re: Gentleman's Agreement
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 12:19 am 
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00Nick00 wrote:
KlassikKiller wrote:
Most of these people lagging your timer out are either exploiting the system, or don't care and will take the advantage. I'm not going to run into someone with this agreement any time soon. If my opponent is lagging my timer, I'll open the largest file on my computer, lag myself, and exploit them if they don't shut down or wait.


Eh... That is the wrong way to do it... Just because an opponent is lagging does not mean they are doing it to mess you up.

That doesn't mean they aren't messing me up, even if they aren't trying to. I lost 3 entire turns in one game I honestly don't care if it is intentional, I'll report them. They shouldn't be playing on a computer so laggy, speedmypc or you're going to get reported is the way I see it.

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