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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:18 am 
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seems ur friend didn't research well enough about the current world situation, and just see "US cut 50% of the military budget" and say US will be defeated...

the line where u said "NK will control US politically" I was... wut?

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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:46 am 
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FTSAgent107 wrote:
A couple of friends and I were discussing the election of Obama and have realized that the cuts he is about to make to the military will be pretty drastic. Through further discussion, we came to this conclusion:

-China will (already is starting to) control us economically
-Russia will control us military wise
-North Korea will control us politically
Maybe not in that particular portion...but basically China, Russia, and North Korea will dominate us.

This is obviously just a theory, but is based on the following:

Russian spies have been found in the CIA once again, however they are so good at hiding their tracks now, that it is nearly impossible to find the perpetrators. They already have infiltrated our main commerce system. Who knows what else they have on us...
China's military is rapidly growing, while we are getting cuts. Because of this China's military is supposed to greatly exceed America's in the next 5-10 years.
North Korea has stated that their nuclear missiles can now hit as far as Kansas.

Obama has told the people not to worry about Russian spies, is going to continue to cut military spending AND increase our deficit. The spending cut is supposed to cut 1500-15000 army personnel on the spot. The only possible bright side to all of this is that America has spies all over the world, which I wouldn't doubt at all.

What do you guys think about all of this?

there has never been an empire that wasn't eventualy destroyed, why would america be any different. I think this won't happen soon but USA will eventualy be beaten most likely

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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:52 am 
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there has never been an empire that wasn't eventualy destroyed, why would america be any different. I think this won't happen soon but USA will eventualy be beaten most likely


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Just because it's all we've seen so far doesn't mean it has to happen again.

That's not to say I don't agree, I do think the United States as an "empire" will fall within a not too large timeframe.. However I do not think it will be because of a military take-over, the United States' army force is simply too large for other countries to consider fighting against. Although I must admit in these times of increased cyber-terrorism it is in my opinion quite possible that (foreign) hackers cause a lot of havoc inside the United States without ever needing an ordinary weapon.

But then again, that is not part of this discussion :)

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:36 pm 
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there has never been an empire that wasn't eventualy destroyed, why would america be any different. I think this won't happen soon but USA will eventualy be beaten most likely

well all the other empires in the past were trying to do major conquering to expand it's territory the united states isnt :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:40 am 
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the only reason is, USA has too big of an army that anyone would think twice before they want to take up directly. Not to mention they are a big part of the world-wide economy now. Taking down USA would take down the entire world's economy (as well as taking down China).

About the defense, the US is considered pretty safe, isolated from the rest of the world, the only way of attacking US is through air and navy forces, or land on the other countries, which are all in US control one way or another (or nuclear warheads). Knowing this, US improve their air and navy forces to top notch, which leave no weakness for the defense.

Unless, as Milanos said, the attack is from cyberspace and covert actions, which can cause lots of troubles which may lead to internal conflicts and collapse of the US government...

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:41 am 
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there has never been an empire that wasn't eventualy destroyed, why would america be any different. I think this won't happen soon but USA will eventualy be beaten most likely

well all the other empires in the past were trying to do major conquering to expand it's territory the united states isnt :roll:

the French empire never did (not the nepolian one the one before that in 17 something) and they were destroyed

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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 2:56 am 
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yeah cuz the French never invaded Vietnam in the 19th century

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 4:13 am 
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socialmisfit1 wrote:
the one before that in 17 something
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19th century

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 Post subject: Re: China, Russia, North Korea vs USA?
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19 is not 17

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aister wrote:
19 is not 17

that's my point

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