Joe is a bit late to respond.
Too much cheating on Mars caused me to just stop playing BD.

I do not fully understand what you are saying here. It is not possible for either you or me to substantiate a claim? Then who would be able to substantiate a claim?

And Seth.



I am not deliberately and cleverly pissing people off. I believe this does not piss off many people, at most they will be slightly annoyed by me taking up space with this thread and this showing up in their active topics. If what I wanted to do was piss people off, there would be many more effective ways to do it. So no, I am not trolling. Please stop calling me a troll.



I'm not denying that every admin gets this from time to time. However it is no secret that some admins get these accusations more often than others. And from what I have heard, there are a lot less accusations of for example Simmen than of Joe. Why? Because on the one side you have an admin that is active and participates in the community and on the other side you have an admin that very often does not reply and rarely if ever posts on the forum. Realistically the times admin Joe posts on the forums is to defend himself from accusations.

And Seth, my point is not even that Joe is "corrupt or on the take". My point is that he is a lot less active than other admins potentially can be, because he has a fulltime job and that does not leave him much time for BD. It is no personal fault of his as BD is not enough to do as a fulltime job, but I believe that for the players it is better to have an admin that is more active and can therefore respond faster.

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Logging in does not mean you are actively hunting cheaters and are helpfully answering messages. My personal experience from not only that F6 era but also my more recent era on M1 is that it is very hard to get a reply from Joe. As far as more information is needed on the cheating, a player spawning with 0 achievements just to create around 33 inf and to spam everything in sight while at the same time coincidentally your radars and gates around that newbie get jammed and that person not being banned within 24 hours. That is what I mean by not catching cheating effectively.

But then again, as I was very busy defending from multi spam and trying to find out how to defend from it, and I could not be 100% sure it was a multi and as I as a normal user can not see whether there is a relationship between the jamming or whether the newbie is actually a multi or not, I do not have hard proof to present here indeed.

I remember lots of instances when Joe has been late to respond to messages from me, and generally just dealing with situations worse than I believe other admins would have.

But this is from quite some time ago, I don't even play anymore. These aren't "baseless claims" because I'm not trying to claim anything. I'm just giving what I can recall from experience. However baseless it may be.

At which point does the sheer amount of baseless negative opinion of something because the basis to take action? That is my question. If the answer is never, then fair enough. It doesn't effect me either way.


I do assume though that most people do not go out of their way to take screen shots and report everything as it happens. It's not worth the effort. Most people complain about admins and/or their actions in skype chats rather than to you. So if you think you've heard a lot of complaints about joe, I can guarentee we have heard more.

Admin Joe being a bad Admin has nothing to do with you , that era you spoke about is from long ago and is now pointless. This thread in my opinion is disrespectful .

Again, I never claimed that the conversation I posted should be proof enough for you to find a new admin. All I am trying to do here is to make you, and potentially others, see that it might be time to search for a new admin to replace Joe, an admin that can be more active and can better respond to user's needs.

Since all we can do is say "this one era this happened", since all we can do is speak from our own experience, will you discount all our experiences as unbased and pointless? They are still experiences that count towards our satisfaction from Battledawn, and should therefore matter to you.

Are you saying that even if 10,000 people came here and said they had the same experience, it would in no way change your opinion?

Well yes, that would do nobody any good and would be pointless. Surprisingly though that's not what I said.




And in not so recent history, when I used to play, I have found a large basis for wrongdoing claims against joe, and that is the hard evidence I have before me.

What is the problem with that? The problem is that I am not supplying you with the hard evidence. This is why you do not believe me. You can't just take our word for it without evidence and go by what you see, before going by what we see.

The same goes both ways. Milanos is going by what he has seen. Not what you are telling him you have seen.


Remember though, I don't actually play and don't care if admin Joe does well or not. I just like these kinds of threads.