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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:42 am 
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religion does require faith... but faith doesn't equal to religion. It's like saying a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.

a religion must have a philosophy and have one or some supernatural beings to worship. Without those two there are no religion.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 3:54 pm 
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aister wrote:
religion does require faith... but faith doesn't equal to religion. It's like saying a square is a rectangle but a rectangle is not a square.

a religion must have a philosophy and have one or some supernatural beings to worship. Without those two there are no religion.


Then what would you call Agnostics? Or Buddhist?

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 4:04 pm 
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buddhism still have someone they worship, who is called Buddha, as well as lots of other "gods" and such. The only thing different is that they don't focus in believing in Buddha, they focus in the way to live in harmony with the nature and society.

idk much about the other though.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 10:37 pm 
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Atheism is a belief structure, thus making it a religion. Despite there hate towards other religions, it is a religion itself.


Atheism has nothing to do with religion. Atheism is a disbelief in God or the existence of a higher power is all. Hatred of religion, is because of the stupidity of it. People mix it up with Atheism, and most people who do that are Christians, because they are either naive or stupid to connect both.

For example, Hinduism is a religion, which considers Atheism to be valid.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 11:10 pm 
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Atheism is a belief structure, thus making it a religion. Despite there hate towards other religions, it is a religion itself.


Atheism has nothing to do with religion. Atheism is a disbelief in God or the existence of a higher power is all. Hatred of religion, is because of the stupidity of it. People mix it up with Atheism, and most people who do that are Christians, because they are either naive or stupid to connect both.

For example, Hinduism is a religion, which considers Atheism to be valid.


Still a form of belief. You don't have to believe in a god to be a religion.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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Religion is not a belief system. Religion is a set of rules, regulations that set up tradition and form culture. The principle of a higher power is belief aka faith.

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felgrand08 wrote:
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saying atheism is a religion is like saying 'Off' is a TV channel.

or that 'not playing basketball' is a sport.

or that your favourite sex act is abstinence.


Atheism is a belief structure, thus making it a religion. Despite there hate towards other religions, it is a religion itself.


a belief structure is a religion? i guess that makes communism a religion because it is a belief structure, its the belief that something something classes, something something proletariat shall rise against the bourgeois!

no, you are not making any sense. would believing in aliens be a religion? what about believing that vaccines cause autism? define "belief structure"

atheism. comes from the word theism and a. theism is the belief in god/deities. the prefix 'a' denotes the opposing, aka, a lack of belief in god/deities.

a comparative version would be gnosticism, knowledge of god (simplified because i know you are struggling here) and agnosticism, the lack of knowledge of god.

buddhism is an atheistic religion, it has a spiritual world view, a belief system regarding the supernatural (resurrection) and has a code to live life by.
what does atheism have other than the lack of belief in god/deities that unites atheists? nothing. no code of conduct, no magic after life, no pandering to magic nor bowing down and worshipping something. none of that. the only thing atheists hold in common is the lack of belief in god/deities.

how old are you? are you receiving a formal education or are you homeschooled?

this concept is not hard to grasp.

if atheism is a religion. not collecting stamps is a hobby.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 10:15 am 
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actually while I was in high school I was in a club call: go home club. Does that count?

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mfreak wrote:
Religion is not a belief system. Religion is a set of rules, regulations that set up tradition and form culture. The principle of a higher power is belief aka faith.


Religion IS a belief system. Its the act of having faith and believing in something that can not be explained, usually through a deity of some sorts.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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and atheism is a disbelief of religion. And they don't believe blindly in some "deity" or "supernatural forces", as well as un-based theories that aren't accepted widely.

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