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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:56 am 
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Ilona has nothing to do with your alliance openly condoning cheating. Or does it? All I did was point out a situation, what happened and how I felt about it. I found many topics of you doing the same. Would you like me to show you, your whining topics?


Hold on, RUN condones cheating? When have we ever condoned cheating? We dont cheat, we just reply to baseless accusations of cheating or foulplay.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 12:19 pm 
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Simple solution. Don't Play a Premier Player world if its gonna hurt your feelings when you lose.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2012 6:32 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:50 am 
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Ilona has nothing to do with your alliance openly condoning cheating. Or does it? All I did was point out a situation, what happened and how I felt about it. I found many topics of you doing the same. Would you like me to show you, your whining topics?


Hold on, RUN condones cheating? When have we ever condoned cheating? We dont cheat, we just reply to baseless accusations of cheating or foulplay.


The suggestion thread. If you can cheat and not be caught then you did nothing wrong. Roughly what you said.

Also, more you pay the less punishment you should receive for cheating was also implied.

So nothing against you, but its implied you been cheating and just haven't been caught :lol: :roll: :P


Edit: Admin playing or not playing is hard to say really. Cause I don't know if its been done before and people will always accuse the alliance with the admin as playing unfair or getting special benefits for having the admin especially if they are the winning alliance . Did any of the admins play during the OC days? or play on the NC not counting Ilona?

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:16 am 
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Guys,

Admins actually playing is the only way BD can improve and idiotic clueless updates stopped. These people (as i proved on F4) had absolutely no clue how the game works.

As far as E1 goes, Ilona (no offense I still love you) was damned awful this era...all she did was NAPs with ARM and such nonsense. So in all fairness she helped us about as much as Tigran did.

So this debate is pointless.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:10 am 
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The suggestion thread. If you can cheat and not be caught then you did nothing wrong. Roughly what you said.

Also, more you pay the less punishment you should receive for cheating was also implied.

So nothing against you, but its implied you been cheating and just haven't been caught


The fact that you say I have been cheating, is your interpretation of it. I did not say it. Have the admin check me out if you have any doubts. If I had the honesty to say that, then you should believe me when I say, I didnt cheat.

Anyway, even if I said that, it only implies that I condone cheating (although I dont, its just that people who are smart enough deserve their reward, its only fair) and not RUN.


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Edit: Admin playing or not playing is hard to say really. Cause I don't know if its been done before and people will always accuse the alliance with the admin as playing unfair or getting special benefits for having the admin especially if they are the winning alliance . Did any of the admins play during the OC days? or play on the NC not counting Ilona?


This is what people on BD do. *CENSORED*, whine, complain and accuse. Ilona always plays with us, and what she is doing this era was the right thing to do. As for the people that complain, I told ya, sour grapes!!

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:33 am 
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I guess it comes down to it. She should not reveal who she is anymore unless people can just look at a colony and be like THATS HER.

I really don't see any harm in letting any admin play.

Hell if possible I would love to see an alliance full of the admins that are playing just for fun or serious and see how things are really done.\

If possible it be funny to see admin run alliances compete against each other

Edit: @mfreak I was not saying you are cheating or anyone in RUN is cheating. Its just openly saying its okay to cheat without being caught implies that you or your alliance could be cheating. No offense meant in any of it. Just thought it should be pointed out. I played against cheaters before and its not fun. I'm sure you have too and most other top players/alliances have too.

Even when its obvious they are cheating, but no proof can be found then its just not really fair in the end. I have no clue who was there but I know Morgan and Apollo should remember the BUL vs FMJ on M3 war. Where BUL abused bounty and other things. Where they held millions of metal and oil with tens of thousands of energy.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 11:57 am 
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Edit: @mfreak I was not saying you are cheating or anyone in RUN is cheating. Its just openly saying its okay to cheat without being caught implies that you or your alliance could be cheating. No offense meant in any of it. Just thought it should be pointed out. I played against cheaters before and its not fun. I'm sure you have too and most other top players/alliances have too.

Even when its obvious they are cheating, but no proof can be found then its just not really fair in the end. I have no clue who was there but I know Morgan and Apollo should remember the BUL vs FMJ on M3 war. Where BUL abused bounty and other things. Where they held millions of metal and oil with tens of thousands of energy.


The reason why you are wrong is because it is YOUR opinion that anyone is cheating. In a game, whenever you accuse someone, and especially when that certain someone is a big customer, you CANNOT afford to go by opinions and notions. Would it be right to convict someone of a crime, just because EVERYONE suspects him to be a criminal? This is the case with Farming, outpost farming, slave colonies etc.,

Secondly, if someone cheats, lets say account shares but does it in a way no one finds out, then he wont get banned. He doesnt deserve to be banned!! This doesnt mean I encourage cheating (Though I think account sharing is something that has to be tweaked, because a strategy game should be based on strategy, not just activity). It just means, no one can prove it, and the guy is just too clever for everyone. That makes him intelligent. It doesnt make him a loser. So when I say, he deserves his reward, it also means that there is no way anyone can find out in the first place. Does it make it okay to do it just because no one can find out? Of course!! Because if no one can find out, then why not? Morals? Meh, not on a game. It has no bearing on a persons character.

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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 8:18 pm 
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I say we just drop it here. If any side was cheating the cheaters would be banned already. ARM lost plain and simple can we please quit with the cheating stuff guys.



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 Post subject: Re: Kinda disappointed
PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:59 pm 
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