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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 12:51 am 
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lol pushed out means, left dummy. If he was captured, he wouldn't be taken across the border and let go lol.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 2:33 pm 
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You're saying he wasn't pushed out because he left? That doesn't even make sense. Why do you think he left if nobody was trying to push him out?... Engage brain please.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 3:14 pm 
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While this remains sad,the organization's distribution of money is horrid. less than 35 % of the money that is donated to them actually goes towards helping the children. and there have been doubts about this organization's validity.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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They also have other costs, so 30 odd, is still okay. But what they fail to address are the core issues of the region, the problem caused by the Ugandan military and govt, whom they fund etc even after Kony escaped Uganda. Sure they need someone to get the job done, but doesnt make sense, replacing the LRA with the Ugandan army, who are basically a bunch of immoral goons doin the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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30% out of everything is good? you can't be serious, how much money do you think they need for other stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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They have stuff like office rent, salaries,travel costs, production costs for movies,costs for awareness creation and campaigns, entertainment, maintenance, hardware and software etc etc

Look up the video Simmen posted. It has a break down of all the costs, or atleast most of it.

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You're saying he wasn't pushed out because he left? That doesn't even make sense. Why do you think he left if nobody was trying to push him out?... Engage brain please.



Who pushed him out??

1 years or so ago the Invisible Children came to my school

They talked about how in his new tactics he moved to other countries so the Uganda army would have trouble there, including us


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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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Dude for Gods sakes. He adopted new tactics, because he was forced to adopt new tactics. Forced because people were after him. Especially the Ugandan army. He didnt adopt new tactics cuz he was bored with his old ones :roll:

So since it was too hot in Uganda, he moved to another country. Thats not "leaving" that's being pushed out or forced to move out.

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
PostPosted: Sat Mar 10, 2012 12:48 am 
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ANYWAYS!!! Like a post in the first page said: Lets keep it about Joseph Kony and not about KONY 2012. That... being, if he actually is human, shouldnt die by any means! No no no, let him fall on an American prison! And by all means prevent any way to kill him, or him commiting suicide. A whole life of penitence is in order here, by what I think. Man, I know they are kids, and the governments should save as many of them as possible. So, Id suggest to just use non-lethal weapons. Cmon, those high-tech sats can definitely locate that sumbitsh, if theyre not too lazy to relocate them a bit.

So if the LRA still stand together after some small-scale non-lethal attacks... then I guess, that the unspeachable would have to happen: a full-on war against the LRA. Even if they are children forced to fight. The determination of the governments of declaring this full-on war against them should scare the mayority of those kids enough 2 understand they should rather turn on Kony and have a chance of both their lives and freedom, or still go at a suicidal attack against the armies that protect their families from being murdered by their own children. I mean, Im all for finding every single way to prevent such tragedy... but we simply cannot just let this guy command an army of kids to kill their parents, whatever reason it is for; this message cannot be tolerated, and if they are in his control, then it means theyre more than dead: they will kill many more ppl if not stopped...

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 Post subject: Re: Kony 2012
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ANYWAYS!!! Like a post in the first page said: Lets keep it about Joseph Kony and not about KONY 2012. That... being, if he actually is human, shouldnt die by any means! No no no, let him fall on an American prison! And by all means prevent any way to kill him, or him commiting suicide. A whole life of penitence is in order here, by what I think. Man, I know they are kids, and the governments should save as many of them as possible. So, Id suggest to just use non-lethal weapons. Cmon, those high-tech sats can definitely locate that sumbitsh, if theyre not too lazy to relocate them a bit.

So if the LRA still stand together after some small-scale non-lethal attacks... then I guess, that the unspeachable would have to happen: a full-on war against the LRA. Even if they are children forced to fight. The determination of the governments of declaring this full-on war against them should scare the mayority of those kids enough 2 understand they should rather turn on Kony and have a chance of both their lives and freedom, or still go at a suicidal attack against the armies that protect their families from being murdered by their own children. I mean, Im all for finding every single way to prevent such tragedy... but we simply cannot just let this guy command an army of kids to kill their parents, whatever reason it is for; this message cannot be tolerated, and if they are in his control, then it means theyre more than dead: they will kill many more ppl if not stopped...


Subject Re: Kony 2012. actually. this issue is bigger than just joseph kony. its about the demographics of uganda, the political situation in nearby countries where kony is hiding, the IC and the kony 2012 campaign's legitimacy, its functionality in bringing kony to justice, ugandan's political office and army's integrity, etc. this issue is quite broad and off topic isnt necessarily off topic.

lets assess your claims.
1. bring kony to US prisons to serve a life imprisonment. <- wtf?
- why US prison? in fact, why US?
- why only kony?
- how? high tech sats? kony is hiding in dense central african jungle, his influence is spread across 3 countries with multiple juristictions.
- non lethal weapons? i know they are just 13 year old kids, but they are armed, they probably have raped, maimed and killed and they have been trained to follow orders. are you seriously suggesting taking on a heavily armed organisation with stun guns? because RPGs and automatic fire will end anyone trying to take them out with less lethal means.

your views are idealistic and nice, but they are not applicable in the real world.

im not sure if you realised this but the ugandan army and the LRA tangled and the LRA were pushed out of uganda, they still number several hundred strong and are roaming about sudan, central african republic and congo. you think the governments there welcome violent rapist murderers? no, they are already being hunted but at the same time they are also doing the hunting.
if you are suggesting US intervention i am very disappoint. have you not learned from iraq? what did that acheive? 150 000 civilians dead and a lot of misery and heart ache back in the states? a couple trillion washed down the coffer and destabilizing a previously stable country.

almost all the events in that video are from a uganda from 6+ years ago. a uganda that no one gave a fudge about. a uganda no one cared was getting pillaged. right now, uganda needs help with nodding disease. not more funds for the ugandan army which has, in the past, done worse than what kony has done (current president in uganda also used child solders to win his presidency and you are giving him money... WHY EXACTLY?)

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