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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:30 pm 
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as i said earlier, it is slightly more cost effective, but i never said go and use that setup for Infs. im still searching for a cheaper and more effective INF setup. and i like the lack of reply for Tanks and LVs. i think i can rest my case for discovering the strongest unit setup for LVs and Tanks. if you find a better setup. feel free to test it in the sim against my setup.

In the end, i proved 2 better setups which are cheaper, and stronger. i proved a 3rd setup that is slightly stronger, but also slightly cheaper, so it evens out in the long run.

I think i can rest my case. feel free to continue arguing, cuz im in a mood to argue. so unless you can add something useful to this topic, please get out.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:31 pm 
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No, in the end you lost every one what are you talking about?

And even in the middle one you were wrong and they tied.
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I ran your build v my build twice with my build having 10 squads and urs having 5 and then switched it with your build having 10 and my having 5. In the fight where I lost I killed 50 of your amrrmored vehs in the fight you lost you killed 17. Clearly I won.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:34 pm 
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Haven, run the sims properly, or dont run them at all. Post the BRs of the the INF anti INF, INF anti LV, and INF anti tank setups. as well at the BRs of the LV anti INF, LV anti LV, and LV anti Tank setups. On top of the Tank anti INF, Tank anti LV, and Tank anti Tank setups.

You should have 9 BRs posted, in which your setup ties in the LV anti LV, wins in the Tank anti Tank, and losses in every other BR. so out of 9 fights, i should win 7, and yes they ARE cheaper. aside from the INF setup.

Post all the facts, not just your one sided crap, or get off the topic. Or, i'll just have a friend come in here, and post the REAL BRs, and then your still proven an idiot.

And what the heck is that one sided BR? 150 lvs vs 75 lvs? how do u expect a real answer from that?

And i said they tied moron... if u ran them with even #s they tie. in the LV vs LV catagory.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:36 pm 
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Y are you having inf fight vehs? That is a difference in Chasis? You don't know what ou are talking about at all. Pls just stop posting

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:38 pm 
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GerberBaby1 wrote:
OMFG that is an even worse build not only is it more expensive then the other 2 it is not as good either.
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Not only did my build win EVERY TIME but it was also cheaper then ur build.I thought you said you RAN the sims? This has been a total waste of my time. At least with the build I thought you suggested you were close to being right but with this one you couldn't have been more off


I am going against my morals and double Post bc you obviously CANNOT read.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:48 pm 
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Haven, Come back in a day or so, when Sebulba posts the full BRs, or you can post this list yourself:

Run these 9 fights:

20 range, 5 damage, 5 armor inf anti inf against 20 range 10 armor inf anti inf

20 range 5 damage, and 5 armor inf anti LV against 20 range 10 armor inf anti lv

20 range 5 damage 5 armor inf anti tank against 20 range 10 armor inf anti tank
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5 range 5 damage 5 armor LV anti inf against 10 range 5 armor lv anti inf

5 range 5 damage 5 armor lv anti lv againt 10 range 5 armor lv anti lv

5 range 5 damage 5 armor lv anti tank against 10 range 5 armor lv anti tank
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5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti inf against 7 range 3 armor tank anti inf

5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti lv against 7 range 3 armor tank anti lv

5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti tank against 7 range 3 armor tank anti tank

That will show the full fight with the 2 setups, your standard setup beats the experimental setup 2 times, and ties with it once. my experimental setup wins every other engagement, and is cheaper for LVs and Tanks.

So either run those BRs and post them, or wait for Seb to post it. ur call, either way, they'll get posted, and we'll see the entire BR reports.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:49 pm 
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lmao haven.... you seem angry xD

But yeah Jett, Havens right. You never use damage in a fight. It is suiciding your army.

Im not trying to insult you, but its a known fact that damage is pretty much useless until round 4.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:52 pm 
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Maybe, but check the BRs. idc if u post them (it'd b appreciated) but check them for yourself. run each of those scenarios. my experimental seems to be the better setup. in an even fight, mine comes out on top 6/9 times, and ties 1/9 of those fights. on top of that, 2/3 of them are cheaper setups.

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:54 pm 
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hmmm, that seems like a lot of test runs.

Maybe i will do a couple

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 Post subject: Re: best unit setup
PostPosted: Tue May 31, 2011 3:55 pm 
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Jettlag wrote:
Maybe, but check the BRs. idc if u post them (it'd b appreciated) but check them for yourself. run each of those scenarios. my experimental seems to be the better setup. in an even fight, mine comes out on top 6/9 times, and ties 1/9 of those fights. on top of that, 2/3 of them are cheaper setups.


WTF dude R U NOT READING NETHING! I posted ALL of the BRS it took me like a half an hour that I could have spent doing something useful

@Saskue Yes I'm mad this newb is rediculous

Dear Moderator: Can you pls move this thread to Newb questios since clearly Jett is a newb and his unit type will lead many players astray.

Jett at least RUN the BRs and dont say you did honestly

Jett you tie once and lose the other 2 times. And to top it off the tie that you tie on is a weaker build that you are using and the units are not effective. If you bothered to read ne of the other posts or BRs you would see what I am talking about. My fights when every time when you use the CORRECT weapon against teh chasis. If you want to use explosive against inf go ahead I;ll take my concussive netime.

Jettlag wrote:
Haven, Come back in a day or so, when Sebulba posts the full BRs, or you can post this list yourself:

Run these 9 fights:

20 range, 5 damage, 5 armor inf anti inf against 20 range 10 armor inf anti inf

20 range 5 damage, and 5 armor inf anti LV against 20 range 10 armor inf anti lv

20 range 5 damage 5 armor inf anti tank against 20 range 10 armor inf anti tank
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5 range 5 damage 5 armor LV anti inf against 10 range 5 armor lv anti inf

5 range 5 damage 5 armor lv anti lv againt 10 range 5 armor lv anti lv

5 range 5 damage 5 armor lv anti tank against 10 range 5 armor lv anti tank
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5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti inf against 7 range 3 armor tank anti inf

5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti lv against 7 range 3 armor tank anti lv

5 range 3 damage 2 armor tank anti tank against 7 range 3 armor tank anti tank

That will show the full fight with the 2 setups, your standard setup beats the experimental setup 2 times, and ties with it once. my experimental setup wins every other engagement, and is cheaper for LVs and Tanks.

So either run those BRs and post them, or wait for Seb to post it. ur call, either way, they'll get posted, and we'll see the entire BR reports.


U should just use the correct weapont ype to go against the untis. Noone in their right mind would send all EMP units against an All inf army unless you outnumbered them.

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