WIND, FiRe, WATR, RAIN, ERTH and, I think, LIFE vs IAN, ROCK, IANt, IANH and IAT.
Some of those may or may not be subs. IAN's subs are significantly lower ranked than those of the Elements.

Well then we have a chance. We can only hope to win

I am going to join FiRe

lol good

oh guys...some hot headed things had happen last ticks. All are complaining about sniping, attacks while napped and so on.
I just can repeat that we never broke our word, even if you send mails like this:




But is that the way you want to go? hmmm ......

That's... nasty... Not the way you should play the game..

Jeez I dont know half the alliances listed there except for the great BoM. The dudes that dumped us at the first hint of war . hmmm Maybe we should just take em out?

Can't really take out those already conquered and then being used. Sigh..having 4-5 subs isn't enough for WiNd they have to use sub farms.

first off, SYN has subs. that is a fact.

WIND does not. that is also a fact.

all the elements are independent of each other and choose to be allied voluntarily - by their own free will. they are not controlled by one individual or one alliance like SYN is. also factual information.

so not only are you trolling and taunting us by bashing our name but now your making accusations that we use sub farms?

we do not conscript those we conquer and make them work for us. many colonies SYN has conquered have become conscripts and expendable shock troops for their armies in the form of members in their subs. Lampar who was once in 11 buy left to join ROCK is the best example i have of this.

i can only speak for WIND on these matters. as i stated above the elemental alliances are made up of individual leaders with sometimes conflicting agendas. we work together (most of the time), much unlike SYN who works as one mind, one body and one purpose in my opinion.

i wont even dignify the accusation of WIND using sub farms. this sounds like your typical name smearing forum trolling to me. mostly why i stay out of them honestly.

dont expect me to be a regular here, some of us try to play above the standard level of whats "acceptable".

I don't accuse, I show facts. This mail is from the leader of whatever-you-would-like-to call-it I call it sub.
Fact is also that we had several attacks out of the blue from exact this sub-farms.
4 ticks ago 32 squads full of spam arrived at the edge of your (protected) area.
We are not allowed to go there so all we can do, is waiting till they spam us once more.
Thanks


The topic is "elements" and not "wind is using sub farms" You want to show us that 5 alliances act as 1. Well, then you will be treated as 1.
And so I have to say, that I don't see anything till now that earns respect.
Tell me that i am trolling - i don't mind.
No one of us got banned for using slave conquers or multis and also we didn't break a NAP we did. Can you say the same from the elements?

I don't say that you all are playing like this but "if this is the wolf pack you run with...."