Fierce... as much as i hate to say it, that makes sense... im kinda at a loss for words here... (and im the incredibly talkative one who wont shut up...)

We never had a NAP with VaT and you can ask Julius Ceasar (VaT leader at the the time) and he will confirm that. I purposely did not make a NAP with Vat because we were planning to attack them, and yes for the reason that they were comprised of many GanG members from the previous era that pulled an even bigger backstab than the BC one (a much later time in the era). Not to mention thats a whole different server, but no, I (in DIP, or LIS never backstabbed anyone.)

Lets define a backstab, in battledawn terms. 1. When an alliance that makes an agreement with another alliance, and not only violates the agreement by attacking, but uses ops that were gained through that agreement to attack from. 2. A cry from some nub that got beat up and wants to broadcast about it.

I had to be able to trust you to take my whole alliance to war up in India, you had ops right on our border. . DIP HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN PAPUA. WE FOUGHT 4 WARS WITH FEAR THERE, and never relocated. ASK ANYONE.

CMT, What i said is more understandable then what your saying. You cant even defend your self aginst acusations of being called a backstabber with any good reasons. Im tired of you trying to make us look like we backstabbed you because you cant emit that you knew, and that you made a huge blunder.

The fact is, you knew, you was also even givin so many chances to move and part of those terms where to talk about extending our agreements, but you didnt want to move, Now at Tick 500 we would of not extended the NAP because of how close you where, and you ask why we didnt help BL till you moved up there.

1. We where active in Euro, and in West AA when you attacked them. So it took time to regroup. BL was also aware that we would need time. So that is why it took 2 days till we did our attacks. (There is 1 of your "Backstab" reasons)

2. Why is it that everyone else knew we where allies but you claim you guys didnt? (thats number 2 in the drain)

3. You claim, When 1 party (BC) has an alliance with another (BL), and the 3rd party (DIP) has a NAP with Party 1. That a NAP should overule a Alliance. Well, if you think that, then you Sir need to slap yourself for even thinking that. Im sorry, But in my eyes. we didnt backstab, and i'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Now stop trying to make us look bad because you didnt think your actions through, and that you also didnt protect your borders, and one more thing. You didnt accept so many offers that even gave you a better spot to grow and not a far distance to travel as a relocation spot. (UF did, and are very happy that they did because they are better off because we arnt sniping each other)

So get off the Backstab bandwagon and quit useing that word for your failures.

Thank you

Merc of Ironhand

BTW. they were nowhere near finished, BH was no help, but im sure they had alot more fight left, so thats a poor way to start the topic.

Well now that you're back put a stop to the arguing and post the pictures. Lol.

to prove a point, you were the one who caused the disagreement in the first place, and Ferret asked for proof then you just took off it looks awfully suspect, not just that but if you don't defend yourself when being denounced then people will believe it, which is fine if you wanna' be known as a backstabbing traitorous liar, but somehow I doubt it.



Actually here in RoL we were watching the DIP-BL fight, they were rank 7 at the time and they took out the rank 1 alliance (at the time), they DID sustain heavy losses, they also took out over 50 BL squads, which for a rank 7 alliance at such a low tick is considered "Heavy". to BC or RoL it may not be, but it is subjective to the alliance in which you are talking about.

Another way to show this would be the populations in the USA and England.... Overall the USA dwarfs the English population. however when we take into account the two nations sizes, we can see that percentage wise England is by far more populated, this is the same for BC and DIP. although BC is much bigger, in percentage wise DIP would have sustained what BOTH of you would consider heavy losses.
Just my opinion.

Carl~

i never communicated with DIP xD i woulda never even made an NAP if i had any say in it... FIERCE knows why. so how do u expect me to come up with a pic, huh?? login to mercs account a take a screen pic of his msgs?? xD Lmao ill get right on that buddy

and FIERCE, i have spoken with JC about the NAP with LIS and VaT and what?? he showed pictures of the NAP and the terms that yall made.. deny it FIERCE cuz thats all ur good at.. take ur medicine and chill

Kerss, i'd like a screenshot... tell JC to post a screenshot on the LIS returns forum would ya? cuz if he showed u the pic, he must have a screenshot which proves it, just saying...

Omfg.. this was like months ago JC and i talked about this and frankly i dont give a crap about the opinions of u people so my last words here are...

FIERCE ur sad bro just admit ur wrong dude..

and also this is long over worth so yall need to drop it.. seriously

dont take much to tick battledawn players off aparently especially as you dont even have to come here to see it