there is a way that you can edit ur first post. dont ask me i dont know how
and what i was saying earlier , my first post on this page. was that people that support will never know how battle dawn really is. like not having a shield built when they have not even come out of protection. and over a 600 population limit before they come out of protection. in my opinion the person that can go a round and finish in the top rankings is a lot better than someone who gets all the advantages of a big donating person (shield, huge army right off the bat, and pop limit that gives them huge resources). and there is nothing wrong with donating as much as u can, it keeps the game going like you said.

bottom line is that they aren't bad players just because they support, they are just in a different group than the people that struggle the whole way through the game. like not being able to attack someone because they dont support and cant by the heavy oil package or whatever it is they need.

it does take more than just money to finish 1st. and they showed us that last round when they won it. so all the talk bout SAGE not being good doesnt really have any merit to it.

I never said that donation was a bad thing, I said donation doesn't equal skill.

The sentence that got me booted was something like 'Chryptic is an average player with an above average wallet size' - that sentence is completely accurate he IS average as far as top BD players go, it IS his donation that gives him that extra boost in ranks.



Total straw man argument, you're pretending that I am making an attack on donators - I'm not, I'm making an attack on you. Every point you've made in defence of donators is irrelevant, since I was never attacking them in the first place.



If by conspiring you mean 'chatting casually'.

So, I was kicked for having friends who don't like you? Wow, that's really big of you to admit how ludicrous the reason was, at least.

I actually liked SAGE, except you. I'd never tarnish my perfect record of never having back-stabbed any alliance in my entire career, especially not for the likes of yourself.



I'm allowed to 'conspire' with your enemies? Then why did you say I wasn't in the last quote?..

Maybe he and I are just friends, crazy thought.






Truth is, I have never claimed to be anything special on BD. Chrptic, on the other hand, reacts so badly to criticism that he'd kick anybody who questions his self-granted title of BD king.

Routhy,
i note you have no response to the racial tension you tried to create in YHH alliance. As for being friends with Jack.. yes you CAN be friends with him.

Just as we can decide we dont wish to be friends with an arrogant racist git who thinks he can manipulate people by posting slander in the forums..

we are done with you,, you are conquered.. and we feel no guilt.. its a game .. you made some bad comments about the co-leader of your alliance. Its not overreacting to kick a disrespectful player from OUR alliance.. If you disrespect my abilities so much you had no place being their to start with.

you got caught .. you got kicked.. you got conquered.

deal with it and stop crying...

pretending that you are a victim... its just hilarious

went from a " donator hater " to " conspirator " and now " racist " .... please pick 1 reason you kicked him and not make a new one up everytime u post

it confuses people

Y HERRO!!

Jack here.

Chryptic, you obviously have no idea what we had been talking about in that chat.

That chat was something I put together to keep Karl in charge of HIS ALLIANCE, and you've twisted it to suit your agenda. You can't stand not being in charge, but when it comes down to it you're a terrible leader. Apparently being loyal to anyone but massah Chryptic is rebellious and evil.

I love SAGE, I would never conspire to destroy it. You however have turned it into your own little cathedral to the self, and ruined it for everyone in it.

Why do you think most of SAGE didn't even WANT to come back? That's right, YOU. You are the most arrogant player I've ever met, and you try to blame everyone and anything else for your failings. Man up, and quit twisting the truth to make yourself look like anything but a self-serving egomaniac.

Jack.. its sad you live in such a delusional state.. when you left sage you gave Karl not me an ultimatum.. "someone has to go.. erizabesu or me.. choose" it's interesting to note that Karl responded many times over many lines in skype " YOU .. YOU .. YOU " .. he didnt need to ask my opinion.. but if he did.. i also would have said "YOU YOU YOU"

it's actually because if whiney little liars like yourself that i wish to quit also.. and yet every time i try.. EVERY member of sage asks me not to go.
you say you wish to save something for Karl..? Sage alliance was cofounded by both of us and we have shared leadership since the beginning.. we voice chat in skype several hours every night and are the best of friends. Your attempts to covertly manipulate my friends to your twisted way of thinking is a complete failure... SAGE stands strong and now that we have removed the scum that you planted in our alliance we will be ever stronger soon.
Perhaps you should just focus on trying to play the game for yourself... you build a colony stay unallied dont actually play.. but just attempt to ruin those people you once called friends.. i feel sad for you jack.. because you are not even here to play.. you are just out for revenge against the alliance that found you unworthy.

But we know deep down you are wanting to be with us again... you build your colony next to us and stay unallied in the hope that one day we will take you back.. hang in there mate.. it will happen on the same day that its cold in hell.

I have to ask, do you laugh maniacally while you type these things?

I left because of Riz. I didn't come back because of you.

How am I a liar? When have I lied to you? When have I lied to anyone here? Does anyone, ANYONE at all have a story about me lying to them?

You said yourself, repeatedly, that you like to lead, but hate the work that leadership requires. So you lumped all the actual work onto Karl, and then led us into our great victory last era. I'm not trying to ruin anyone, I'm just trying to keep you from running an alliance, with good friends of mine in it, an alliance I put time, effort and money into making great, straight down the tubes through your arrogance and short-sighted ideas.

How have I done anything covertly? I openly acknowledge who I am on every server, and say it freely in public chats all the time.

You found me unworthy? Then why did you just say that you would have preferred to keep me in the alliance when I left at the peak of SAGE's power last era? This kind of logic is why I have never respected your leadership, you're making my point for me with every reply.

Jack i didnt say i wanted to keep you.. i like plat said YOU YOU YOU.. because i wanted you gone.. and as far as EVERYONE who was an important mamber of SAGE was concerned we were better off without you.
As for my role as a leader in SAGE.. thats between me and platinum.. who i am talking to as i type this message. You pretend that you are still a part of SAGE.. and i quote "you lead us into our great victory"
you were not even there at the end.. you missed the important battles.. but we did not miss you.
join an alliance build some troops .. play the game... stop crying

WOW... this forum is a little of topic

Me and Chryptic both lead SAGE and started it together... we share equal part in the role...

This is gone on to far...

please can we put a stop to it..