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mfreak
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 9:44 am |
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Sooo many stupid rules. EVERY ingame action being scrutinized and meanings read into them. This is ridiculous.
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Papook
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:35 pm |
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there is actually no way to enfoce it a decent team make several hundred k's metal and oil a day one of the sternghts of a good team is supporting each other. basicly you can send away all your resources everyday to support the team. a good team usually has a supporter playing low activity sending res and build ops. so one could send tokens to all his friends for their own use, but they can still send their own income everyday to their friends, that is not illegal afaik.... other than that, tokens have never been fair. they are mostly used by highly active and experianced players, which makes it even harder to beat. I've never used over few 2-3k reds a round, but i would'nt suggest anyone to play against me if I had the chance to use more of those afaik SoLD have never relied on tokens for the long run, so there you have a decent example of an option to do it with a tight budget. Xeeron himself mentioned he never bought red tokens at all. - Lobo
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:03 pm |
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Joined: Sun Dec 12, 2010 6:10 pm Posts: 2761 Location: USA Gender: male
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allen i really do hate to say it but that is a reasonable rule the supporters have advantage enough as it is and token farming gives way to much as it is and other people dont get a chance
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Seth
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:14 pm |
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Joined: Sun May 31, 2009 10:47 pm Posts: 2416 Location: U.S.A. Gender: male
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I am coming in late on this one, and 9 pages is an awful lot to read. Can someone fill me in with a summary of what this is all about please?
Please try to be objective. Thanks
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trevor1601
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:48 pm |
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The question is whether or not the ToS portion where it says sending tokens to teammates and getting resources in return is farming.
There are cool downs for a reason if I am not mistaken.
Just wondering if this type of farming is allowed since it seems no admin enforces it.
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Seth
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:50 pm |
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Ug. It should be enforced. I do enforce it.
It is relatively rarely reported though, and an admin may not notice it on his own unless he happens to be looking into someone.
This rule is set in place in response to the overall community's view that supporters can "buy a round" if they so choose. It has been something which is brought up over and over again in this community (supporters being too powerful), and is something which we administrators have put a great deal of thought and planning into. It is very difficult to accomplish, because it is very much a game of trying to find a happy medium for everyone.
We need to both show initiative in assuring free players that they stand a chance too, but at the same time need to maintain enough incentive to inspire players to support and help keep the game free to play.
Cooldowns are very much a part of this, and the terms of service rule is put in place to see that the cooldowns are adhered to. As players, it is important to realize how difficult a job it is to try and keep this happy medium and also do your best to respect the fact that the admin already has a tough job in cut out for him as this keeper of the medium.
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trevor1601
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:56 pm |
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Thanks for the speedy reply Seth. And i hope everyone sticks to their own cool downs now like i have been this whole era.
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:02 pm |
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trevor1601 wrote: Thanks for the speedy reply Seth. And i hope everyone sticks to their own cool downs now like i have been this whole era. He is an admin. He has to reply fast.
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AnitsuEx
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:06 pm |
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As said earlier, a lot of the top competitors and boosters in this game does this thing. Problem now, if Battle Dawn is to actually stick to it's ToS and it's rules, they will have to give suspensions or bans to the level of how much they avoided the cooldowns(?), now that is bad for a Battle Dawn as a game that is technically free to play, it needs it's income.
So therefore, this game cannot be run like that so a lot of the points of the ToS needs to be reworked. A lot of times you won't want to permanently expel a major booster in the game as it is money they are putting here if someone complains... I have argued against players sending tokens to each other to SUPPLY only one person after a major loss, and it was fairly well ignored and slandered by players who has done it or by players who severely misinterpreted.
TL;DR; one or two guys may enforce this, but not everyone and in the end the majority boosters in the Battle Dawn community is it's MAIN boosters so therefore even a temporary suspension may make them leave and hurt the income of the game for the creator.
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Post subject: Re: Tokens vs Hardcore supporters Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:22 pm |
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AnitsuEx wrote: So therefore, this game cannot be run like that so a lot of the points of the ToS needs to be reworked. A lot of times you won't want to permanently expel a major booster in the game as it is money they are putting here if someone complains... I have argued against players sending tokens to each other to SUPPLY only one person after a major loss, and it was fairly well ignored and slandered by players who has done it or by players who severely misinterpreted. Well as it stands at the moment it is in the ToS and if you do the crime do the time, I was perm banned in OC for letting my leader move my units away from a nuke, my offense was a lot less than what SoF has done and my ban was perm, I'm not saying that anyone should get a perm ban, I'm just saying the massive donators seem to get off easy, while me donating on a smaller level gets treated like everyone else, the way I should be treated.
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