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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:24 am 
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6 hours?! You get banned for a longer/permanent time for using bad words... But you only get a 6 hour ban for abusing and cheating multiple times (god knows if they used it in the past...) which does not make sense to me (us).

WDK suffered from major damage and could not defend there selves as planned from other attacks (which, still they did better then a cheater would do)...
I will not defend any one here, but in my eyes, I understand that if I start abusing multiple times bugs who are OBVIOUSLY done with my/your own conscience (pathetic move off kicking out Pixy jut made it clear.) will get me a 6h ban... only...

I could go sleep a little earlier, and when I wake up its all back OK...

LET'S GO ALL BUG ABUSE!!! HURRAY!
Is that what your messages are people? SO now all bugs can be used to win and *stuff*?!

Kane has been banned before btw... Guess why? Oooh yes, bug abusing, treu treu... So, now we all know we can't get banned and get 2th, 3th, 4th etc chances, awesome... PLUS, you get rewarded :D

PS: Kane, where is your so called honor now? You made the game suck you know. I don't feel like fighting cheaters, never did.

PPS: I recently heard that people who donate a lot gets advantages, can some one PLEASE confirm this?!

Some one you (don't)know.


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:24 am 
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No bug is allowed to be abused, the gate bug is well known and a fix is already being worked on.

Bans depends on severity of the bug and whether it was deliberate or not. Kane ranks very highly on both counts. (Ignorance is no excuse with Kane, who knows better)

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:44 am 
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You keep saying you played with me, but I can only think of a short inactive stretch in DRAW on E4 on your part. Yet somehow this gives you great insight? Don't make me laugh.

You have no idea what you're talking about, and are just following the general consensus without much critical thinking.

Where is it stated that this is against the rules? No where. It is a game design flaw on the side of BD, one, like any other gameplay mechanic in BD, that is part of the game and should be able to be used by anyone. This entire point is moot since the only reason it was necessary was due to a bug in spy protection to begin with... why this equates to the admin giving the round to a 3rd party team still eludes me.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:00 am 
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I've never said i know you, i just say that your argument that all of those against you have been to war with you and stuff like that :)

and kane, will you ever stop hiding behind the "there are not rules that cover this exact scenario" because you knew very well that this was a bug, and that you were ABUSING it.

and Wirlez your in kane's alliance ofcoarse you will be biased, you ran to kane when he were about to kill us so i gues you owe him?

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 7:14 am 
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Who is to say what is a bug and what isn't, the whim of the admin is not good enough. If there is no specific documentation, there is no authority to ban and give the round away.

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kane kane kane, you knew it were a bug. You should be to smart to put all your faith in the ignorance argument ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 8:39 am 
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There are lots of bugs, but which are bannable? Which are not? Why wasn't WDK banned? It's the whims and inconsistency that is troubling, without any outside documentation.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:01 am 
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Wirlez wrote:
I AM NOT POSTING THIS IN DEFENCE OF KANE. I POST THIS CAUSE I THINK THE ADMINS ACTIONS WERE WRONG. I am just using this case as an exampel since I know all the facts.

Kane did not use any third party programs, he did not write any codes or anything like that. Kane used a button that is integrated within Battledawn. Banning people for the games fault seems to me, who have been studying law for six year as an injust way to handle the problem. WDK who suffered the bug got their losses returned to them, no arguing there.

The bugs in Battledawn are many and being abused at an daily basis, I know I reported the very known Gate bug which allows you to gate further than permitted, but did not even get a reply from the admin.

So now when Kane have been banned for abusing a bug (a bug that was abused twice by the other team the same week) I expect everyone to be banned for abusing bugs, right? That is the only justice I see. But since the person I reported for abusing a bug did not get banned, I highly doubt he even got a warning, it seems as only some players will get banned for abusing bugs and in only some situations.

I interpret it as some bugs are allowed to use while others are reason enough to deny a paying customer access to the game. If this is the case, which it obviously is, I'd like to know what bugs are allowed and not allowed, also in what situations it is allowed to use them. I don't want to get banned for using an ingame function.

I don't know if this is the right place to post this since it is intended for the admins eyes.


This is kind of off topic. Sorry about that. But Markus, anyone who knows you, knows you are some kinda Computer Graphics designer. And you are like 20 years old and you have been studying law for 6 years ? :o

LIAR!!!...Well you sure have a future in law :D

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
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LMAO at your useless post markus (PurpleAce) i really don't know why you bother


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 9:45 am 
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Yeah Markus, using logic and all that. You're ruining their fun.

The fact remains, faulty mechanics lie in the fault of BD, and a player should not be penalized for using them.

You can't simply ban players for not playing the game is it may be intended, because this is an entirely subjective measure that differs between admins, and admins should NEVER have an effect on the game that alters how you should behave in each world. They should enforce rules, not craft a game experience.

What if an Admin determines that some tactic is illegal, but another doesn't, a war could play out completely differently on these two servers if they gameplay mechanics that are allowed are disputed. If a gameplay mechanic is not intended, it should simply be fixed or changed.

There is of course a disconnect between the admins the developers, the admins have to make everyone happy and if a bug is not fixed it is the fault of the developers but they hardly see any of the negative feedback from it.

While this is an issue, it's not the players fault, and so we should not be punished in light of that for using the mechanics before us. What if subs are declared cheating? Slave accounts? Some bans go through, others don't... it's entirely subjective and makes the case by case basis of administrating BD a nightmare, not everyone will be happy.

If you can't make everyone happy, you might as well be consistent.

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