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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 8:35 pm 
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I complain about a 6 hour ban because I shouldn't have been banned for 6 seconds much less 6 hours. It was the same tick IMTA backstabbed us, after my squads were airborne so I lost a good 1/3 of my army today because of Andrew's whim.

I complain about it because it's telling the world that the admin can arbitrarily designate a gameplay mechanic as cheating and ban you for it when there is no prior knowledge of it being cheating. Especially when the alliance complaining about it did it twice before in the same week.

We should not ban due to laziness on the part of the developers, if there is a problem, fix it. Banning players for pressing a button you put on the interface is ridiculous.

As for you simmen, I don't know who that is or where, but I'll tell you he didn't deserve to get banned for it either whoever it is. I never imagined anyone could get in trouble for anything so silly, when will force relocating conquers in the way become cheating? As soon as enough people whine?

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:18 pm 
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I complain about a 6 hour ban because I shouldn't have been banned for 6 seconds much less 6 hours. It was the same tick IMTA backstabbed us, after my squads were airborne so I lost a good 1/3 of my army today because of Andrew's whim.

I complain about it because it's telling the world that the admin can arbitrarily designate a gameplay mechanic as cheating and ban you for it when there is no prior knowledge of it being cheating. Especially when the alliance complaining about it did it twice before in the same week.

We should not ban due to laziness on the part of the developers, if there is a problem, fix it. Banning players for pressing a button you put on the interface is ridiculous.

As for you simmen, I don't know who that is or where, but I'll tell you he didn't deserve to get banned for it either whoever it is. I never imagined anyone could get in trouble for anything so silly, when will force relocating conquers in the way become cheating? As soon as enough people whine?


Don't forget Kane that are the one that knew what would happen. You pressed the button with the intent of using a bug that YOU knew was basically cheating. It's the same thing as using a code to hack battledawn, except this one is in the game.

You are the one who did it intentionally. Suck it up, and move on with life.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 9:43 pm 
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Kane, this is getting old. Everybody reading this, including you, knew what you did was abuse of a bug, a bannable offense. Your claim to ignorance about it being a bug is ridiculous because you have access to a list of all bugs in BD. Your claim that a bug becomes part of a game tactic if its not fixed in a certain amount of time is also ludicrous.

Everyone here knows that you cheated, and everyone except Andrew thinks you should be banned permanently. You cannot continue to say all you did was press a button that was provided to you by the game and expect people to change their mind and agree with you. Nobody, nobody at all, believes you.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 10:02 pm 
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I wrote a long reply, but I felt like a lot of it was just repeating myself.

The same as using code to hack BD? Being banned permanently for using a button placed by the developers on the interface?

You are being ridiculous, and the only people to have posted here against me are either currently at war with me or have a prior bias. Show me a single other player that was banned for this, and I'll show you a player who was unjustly banned.

It was admitted that without the previous bug that Darth Blitz profited from that our squads would have been fine, why doing what I did warrants the admin deciding I should lose the round is beyond me.

There's a reason people are simply repeating the same thing rather than actually debating, did a single person even try to discuss it with Oluvai? No, the people paying closest attention to this thread are simply those who can't win a stand-up fight, so they use words here on the forums in an attempt to compensate.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 11:42 pm 
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Kane You think that everyone that are writing are against you, when in reality it is not... You bashing the Admin for your actions is very distastefull. I been here a long time and I know right from wrong just as every veteran here including you, just because you chose to utilize a ILLEGAL Mechanism do not blame Admin. Also your not dead yet so stop whinning and play and don't play the victim no more ,it is getting old! Have a nice game and leave it alone its over..


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:31 am 
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I'm not bashing the admin, good people are capable of egregious errors, and one has transpired here. It was in no way indicated that this was an illegal mechanism, WDK used it twice before we did and no one complained on either side. You can't arbitrarily decide a game mechanic is an exploit, when it is actually a design flaw.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 12:37 am 
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everything ive read sounds like a bunch of crying. Maybe it was not a bug maybe they actually had a faster reload ...but its normal for those to cry out bug when they are losing. This goes for anyone ever in the history. Maybe the admin checked it out and ignored u guys cause there was nothing wrong. this post was extremely redundant. Too much talking about bugs and being rein burs-ted for lost resources and troops. Nothing has happened yet and nothing will. So might as well continue the war and stop pointing fingers and re-mincing on what the other alliance did in the GOOD OL DAYS. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 2:11 am 
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psg188 wrote:
You are being ridiculous, and the only people to have posted here against me are either currently at war with me or have a prior bias. Show me a single other player that was banned for this, and I'll show you a player who was unjustly banned.


All I've ever done in regards to you Kane is work alongside you and occasionally played in alliances alongside you. I'm also not playing E1, so where's the bias? Or is it the fact that I obey the rules? Yeah I guess that's a bias, disregard this reply.

I'm too biased by obeying the rules, that's it.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:32 am 
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only time I've been againt you were E1 where i don't think i even lost 1 unit againt GIFT, because i were to inactive at the time xD

Other then that kane i think we have always been on the same side :o

I guess I'm to biased by obeying the rules :cry:

Oh, and i see juno is back, how did she like to fall from rank 1 to rank 4o because of your greed? :)

I hope you atleast gave her a Obese Pink Pony (look to my picture) and told her you were sorry! :o

but as she is your biggest (and only?) fan i gues she were happy to give all her crystals to you ;)

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:00 am 
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I AM NOT POSTING THIS IN DEFENCE OF KANE. I POST THIS CAUSE I THINK THE ADMINS ACTIONS WERE WRONG. I am just using this case as an exampel since I know all the facts.

Kane did not use any third party programs, he did not write any codes or anything like that. Kane used a button that is integrated within Battledawn. Banning people for the games fault seems to me, who have been studying law for six year as an injust way to handle the problem. WDK who suffered the bug got their losses returned to them, no arguing there.

The bugs in Battledawn are many and being abused at an daily basis, I know I reported the very known Gate bug which allows you to gate further than permitted, but did not even get a reply from the admin.

So now when Kane have been banned for abusing a bug (a bug that was abused twice by the other team the same week) I expect everyone to be banned for abusing bugs, right? That is the only justice I see. But since the person I reported for abusing a bug did not get banned, I highly doubt he even got a warning, it seems as only some players will get banned for abusing bugs and in only some situations.

I interpret it as some bugs are allowed to use while others are reason enough to deny a paying customer access to the game. If this is the case, which it obviously is, I'd like to know what bugs are allowed and not allowed, also in what situations it is allowed to use them. I don't want to get banned for using an ingame function.

I don't know if this is the right place to post this since it is intended for the admins eyes.

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