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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:50 pm 
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That is completely ridiculous Andrew. A ban for bad language is 4 times longer than that. He knowingly abused the bugs in this game and he deserves a permanent ban in my opinion. You are letting him get away with his dirty move with just a slap on the wrist. Any bug in the spy system doesn't give him the right to completely and knowingly exploit another bug. That is completely wrong, immoral, and dishonorable and he should be banned for more than a measly 6 hours. That is not even the amount of ticks you would be offline for a good night's rest.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:53 pm 
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Andrew, what the hell? Kane has knowingly exploited a bug which has CHANGED THE ERA RESULT, and all he gets is COMPENSATION and a 6 hour ban? what the hell?


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 1:58 pm 
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I would have to agree. 6 hours is a BS. Like darth said swearing is a day's ban.

This punishment is a load of crap!!

and on top of that you are giving GIFT there losses back hahaha...for cheating hahaha

Unbelievable...


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:00 pm 
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That is wrong. A 6 hour ban is nothing but a joke.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:03 pm 
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So even though you just determined that a bug enabled us to get spied, me compensating for that deserves to be banned? I've never seen anyone so much as warned for this tactic before, and you banned me on the first tick of getting attacked by IMTA.

Never before have I seen an admin decision tip the scales so much in a round.

Good game.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:08 pm 
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kane, what a load of rubbish. the admin is being GENEROUS to you


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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:13 pm 
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You knowingly abused this bug like nobody had before. You cheated death for you're entire alliance's army. (You also farm pixy, the only victim of our attack). And you did this just because you lost the spy battle.

You complain that you only lost the spy battle because of a glitch in the spy system. Regardless of that, you glitched to put protection on the op. You told me yourself that you started adding spy protection before the tick even changed. I have several issues with this:
1. How could you add the spy protection if you hadn't yet captured the op
2. How can you add spy protection without refreshing for the tick. Any time anybody else tries to do an action with 5 seconds left in a tick it simply says "Action cannot be preformed because tick has past" So how did you manage to get your spy protection on it if a tick had past and you hadn't reloaded yet? The spy protection/infiltration glitch only factors in because you found a way to add protection before anybody else can do anything in the next tick. If you had waited for the tick to change and refreshed, the spy battle would have occurred just as it had.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 2:54 pm 
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The tick turns in chunks, I refreshed early before it was done turning. Our squads were ETA0 on top of the OP and it just turned green. The dialog box popped up to refresh the client, I selected cancel and added 100 protection since the OP was now ours despite the tick turn not being complete.

So it wasn't before the tick turn, it was during the tick turn. If spy protection was working properly we would be fine.

Instead a bug ruined us, so we played within the game mechanics to succeed. Yet WDK is able to rebuild their entire army with whatever chassis and ratios you want, from scratch... while on our side, the leader is banned on the first tick of a new war, thereby giving them an enormous advantage.

I didn't cheat, I used a tactic that was available to me through the game mechanics and was banned for it, while WDK did it twice before and didn't get any punishment, seeing how we didn't report it because we obviously are under no delusion that anything we don't agree with is automatically cheating.

We play the game and get banned, others sit on their rear ends and are rewarded by the admin. I shouldn't have to play into the psychology of an admin when playing a strategy game, they shouldn't be a factor, they are observers, but in this instance Andrew made a clear decision for GIFT to lose the round.

We'll see if his wishes go fulfilled, if not he can always ban someone else, or lengthen my ban. I think I got a wreckage putting my workers over 1000, my worker count is red now... is this legal? Should I be banned for longer? Is this exploiting the worker limit?

The arbitrary whims of deciding which broken mechanics are legal and which are not, despite the mechanics being known to be faulty for an entire year, is despicable.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:08 pm 
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psg188 wrote:
I didn't cheat, I used a tactic that was available to me through the game mechanics and was banned for it.

I know i'm not part of this discussion, but i just want to point out that multies are also a tactic availible through game mechanics and it's cheating. But apparently it's not cheating if it's through the game mechanics.

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 Post subject: Re: Abusing, Bug, Cheated all in 1 from Gift alliance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 3:11 pm 
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Stop pleading ignorance Kane, you knowingly and willingly abused a bug and got punished for it.

That's my two cents done, this situation has been resolved.

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