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 Post subject: Re: Vulnar's conquer - a wrongdoing explained
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 2:13 pm 
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Interesting how you take the time to write such a long post, mention how many lies I supposedly came up with, and yet you don't take the time to answer a single one of my points. Seems more like you have no answers that can prove your case.

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For the record, my MSN has always been open for the alliance group. On the contrary, I was denied of any communication after I was kicked.


Oh really? You were ordered by your leader to unblock me on msn, and kept me blocked the entire duration of your stay except for a 30 second window in which you had the nerve to ask for my help after all you did to me. So this is false.

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And who are you to judge if my score was helping the alliance or not? I provided everything to the alliance I was asked to, and I could do so due to my high score.


Who am I? Someone who had deployed over 100 OPs for the benefit of the alliance, someone who used his spare units to help others get conquers, someone who used his time to coordinate efforts that were for the benefit of others, not only myself. I already explained all the ways you were of no help to the alliance in my previous post, which you interestingly enough ignored.

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100% not willing to abandon my spot and conquers just because a certain someone was too arrogant to share some space and felt that I was stealing his conquers.


Already explained the many reasons for the move, you were ordered to move or you would be gone, simple as that and you ignored it. It was the best thing for the Asian members who were getting their conquers stolen by you (launching extra squads on purpose to outnumber them, I saw you do this many times) and it was the best thing for the African pod for reasons I described.

Rather than rewrite my arguments against what you've said twice now I merely ask that you answer my post instead of making the assertions I have already retorted against once and you ignore.

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Interesting, isn’t it, who that certain someone could be, that was capable enough to influence a whole alliance against me with his undermining cunning words…


Most interesting was that I complained for a good deal about your lack of assistance and your greedy behavior, but it was when I sat quiet and let everyone watch you play that the alliance saw what needed to be done. My cunning words had little to do with it, you did it to yourself.

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It looks like the same cunning words that Kane used to abandon his alliance and beg for the safety of PAW, best allies of GML at that moment, so that he can still brag around for his “rank #1” in that around. You should be kissing Avi’s *** and Tabula’s good mood that spared yourself and your 800 tanks or you would really had been devastated and would only be proud about your “mighty snipers” now!


I knew you could not resist, I was merely answering your contention that this was somehow motivated by being "beaten" in E2 when I had obviously not been. BdT failed indeed, I did not abandon my alliance, I fought to the point that everyone else had stopped fighting and only left when realizing it was just 1-2 players by themselves. I did more fighting without an alliance than all of BdT did put together during the same time. I answered all this before, but you are quite adept at writing based on false memory.

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Even now, you dare to bring up the Prr issue, were you totally messed up as a Minister of War and turned a few hours battle into a couple of days war, after making sure that I would all my units in the area while I was offline.


We were attacked and we needed a quick counter attack. Instead of helping attack you grabbed conquers, instead of setting up infrastructure to help you razed OPs, instead of helping defend against them you ran away time and time again. Blaming me for your lack of assistance is the most ludicrous thing I've ever seen.

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And about the defences, everyone knows that I have NEVER left an ally undefended, no matter who or what, it is a matter of principle, so there is no point in you trying to prove the opposite.


Except for the group convo where everyone saw you making me beg for help on my colony, only to have you say you would send defense and then instead sent the units to grab more conquers, not sending a single unit to help, or bit of oil to Mo so that he could help. Your post is simply a lie and everyone in the alliance knows it.

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And for your information, I could not build the gate and radar building anytime earlier, as I only did a minimum donation this round, and again I was never asked by the alliance to change anything on this section of my gameplay. I would have acted immediately.


Of course you would spend resources on more and more units when you have an alliance to do all the work for you right? You seemed perfectly content using my radars and gates for your benefit while you contributed nothing of your own. You WERE asked to change your gameplay, under threat of being kicked, and you seemed to ignore it and think we were not serious.

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I respect you more than the people you consider your ingame friends.


How you claim to know how much I respect Mo is beyond me, please do not assume you know my feelings towards other players, thank you.

I wonder if this time you will answer the facts I have presented instead of the vague "You are lying" that you showed us this time for the 2nd time. I don't have high hopes.

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 Post subject: Re: Vulnar's conquer - a wrongdoing explained
PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:40 pm 
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I have had the privilege to play with many of the XI players several rounds on various alliances and consider them to be very close friends, Vulnar included. I was located in another continent than Vulnar so I can not speak about the allegations that our alliance had against him as I did not experience it first hand. The allegations and the number of players that had grievances with Vulnar made his staying in the alliance an improbably situation. While I did not know exactly what was going to happen, I had an idea. What I could have done different; spoken up earlier. To kick and conquer an elite player of this game is disgraceful. Vulnar is an elite and respected player yet we treated him like a 14 year old who makes decisions on a whim. I was a part of this and I am not proud of my actions or neglect to take action.

I would like to apologize for my part in this to Vulnar. This is a player that I would always be honored to play along side with.

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 Post subject: Re: Vulnar's conquer - a wrongdoing explained
PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:14 pm 
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vulnar wrote:
Your words are the only ones I can take seriously into consideration.


Thank you.

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but I have been told that you only conquer your enemies, you don’t conquer your friends. That shows mean, nothing more nothing less.


Conquering you wasn't mean. once decision was made to make you leave, it was unavoidable to conquer you. we could not risk having a powerful player as yourself, pissed off, in our back yard. you have to understand that. it has nothing to do with treating you with disrespect "like a 14 years old kid" as renee said... on the contrary, it was just because we all know what you're capable of, and no one would like to have someone like you at his back yard when he's pissed off of him.

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I would like to apologize for my part in this to Vulnar. This is a player that I would always be honored to play along side with.


I know that you like vulnar and that you feel bad about what happened. believe me, i wasnt happy at all to see it myself. However, Vulnar is at least as responsible as everyone else to what happened, so i dont see the point in apologizing. the conquering thing, i explained before. there wasnt really any other way.


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It looks like the same cunning words that Kane used to abandon his alliance and beg for the safety of PAW, best allies of GML at that moment, so that he can still brag around for his “rank #1” in that around. You should be kissing Avi’s *** and Tabula’s good mood that spared yourself and your 800 tanks or you would really had been devastated and would only be proud about your “mighty snipers” now!


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Avi, I am sorry I am encouraging Kane to kiss your ***, but I know you are a great person and you can tolerate that much.


Well... i really dont have anything to add to those quotes, it is just as funny as hell... LMAO

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 Post subject: Re: Vulnar's conquer - a wrongdoing explained
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2009 3:00 am 
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Sheesh - I thought this was buried.

Vulnar

Please stop these ridiculous assertions regarding my actions. I don't know what you see in 'the conversation' that you saved, but I can guarantee that it doesn't say anything about you helping!

Regardless of what you claim, the facts prove my words to be the truth.

1. In group conversation I repeatedly asked for oil to go to help against the Prrr attack.
2. In a side conversation I asked for oil to go and help against the Prrr attack.
3. You had 14-15K oil. You sent .... zero.

The facts speak for themselves.

Please stop trying to 'muddy the waters', if you would just actually admit that you did, what you did, because it was Kane, people might understand your actions more easily !

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 Post subject: Re: Vulnar's conquer - a wrongdoing explained
PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:47 am 
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