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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:55 pm 
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As far as JFA running the world goes - this happens everywhere nowadays. Why should E1 be any different. The team that snags the most resource OPs and can adequately defend them wins the round almost every time. Its not their fault that they expanded faster than everyone else.


The problem wasn't JFA's skill. It was everyone allowing JFA to expand at that rate without realizing that letting them do so = game over. They haven't needed to "adequately defend" anything.



You say "everyone". Except you, BH, WLI and us, who was on the world to stop anyone from expanding? Mm?

Don't say CoLD - They weren't active whatsoever. They would have been a meat shield for you, not an opponent. Though recently theyve been improving.



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I have no problem identifying JFA's ability to win era's, but we have had their claims of winning E1 without any form of help or allies shoved down our throat since tick 1.

I would have no issue with this if it were true. Giving alliances the option to place with certain conditions doesn't = winning without help to me. Just win the era guys, why all the bragging about a situation that clearly hasn't been true?


This makes no sense. What do you expect us to do? Bully off and kill everyone who can not defend themselves? Or do you expect us to war everyone at once so that we have the enjoyment of fighting multiple teams plus their subs with about 4 members carrying?


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@Alexanderkitty The only claim we ever made about how we were playing this world is to try and stop the JFA steamroll. Our sub or any alliances we have tried to make was done so without claiming that we were acting alone. So pointing that out means nothing.


Yet, early on, you tried to get peace. Then figured you'd screw us and peace us after. If I am not mistaken original talk you weren't planning to war us at any point. A bit hypocritical I guess?

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As far as our retreat...I'd say it was pretty damn slow considering you conquered your first WEAK player on tick 564.


I took 2/5th of Africa with 6 squads. We had it pretty much as fast as you can move down, we didn't see a reason to rush Antartica as the income advantage would make it easier over time. :) Fighting pure explosive vehs isn't desirable unless you have a considerably larger army.

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Your income advantage came well before you pushed us out of Africa.


Africa and EUrope are the most profitable continents in the game.

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Does this look like not defending to you?


Not really, you sat on an OP and let us enter AA, then we were ordered to attack, one guy didn't make the attack, we all assumed someone else was scanning and watching. Was a silly mistake, cost us a few squads. Was the result of assuming everyone else amongst us was perfect and would take care of everything - resulting in no one doing so.

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I'm sorry we didn't suicide our armies into 8 of yours to make things faster and easier for you. Trust me...we tried many times to catch one of you offline but JFA are experienced and weren't leaving offline armies in a position that they couldn't be defended.


We didn't even move sleeping armies back. Not once. Not one time this era. The only time we ever moved an army back was when Red was quitting. That and when Kodak lost internet at home.

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:59 pm 
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What is this?! JFA you noobs! :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:06 pm 
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Lol... Milan spills the all valuable insight into the situation.

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:06 pm 
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What is this?! JFA you noobs! :lol:


That would be the leader, 2 ministers and one of our best member each thinking someone else got the attack scanned and covered. Lol.

"oops"

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:42 pm 
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A normal action taken by an noobs :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:50 am 
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Generally, I don't post on the forums anymore, but I couldn't help but notice how most of what Mirage and KJ are arguing for is "honor."

Now, very quickly. AOD picked up these two members on F4 from another alliance quickly in the round as I and another member were fairly inactive due to circumstances.

At the end of F4, all vets plus Mirage and KJ were asked if they'd like to return. All said yes - easily enough. F4 resets, guess who's not there....?

I can't stand to see someone who can't honor their word to an alliance be posting in the forums on a different world about honor and glory.

Now, don't get me wrong. Mirage and KJ are good players, and are generally very active. I don't hold any wrong doing to them, just more am throwing this up here in hopes that they will finally give me a response. *

*Note: I am on E1, in COLD. I messaged KJ when the round (F4) reset, asking where Mirage and he was. He read my message and didn't respond. I still don't hold wrong doing - more hope that one can give me a honest response to why they never showed up and what honor and glory means to them.

All that I have to say on the subject, hope it entertained you, made you laugh, cry, etc.


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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 4:57 am 
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A normal action taken by an noobs :lol:

yes exactly, lol

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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:40 pm 
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Fitz, I apologize we put you off by not rejoining F4.

I am simply playing too many worlds. Expected M2 would be over by now. Nothing against you or AOD, you guys were all great. The war against HAAF was fun and helping us exact revenge against Chopper was very satisfying.

KJ only plays one world at a time (unless I bug him to the point of pulling his own hair out).



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 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:32 pm 
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To clear the air of all of those assuming JFA was involved with WLI that killed Braveheart.

Braveheart basically killed Braveheart. Half of us didn't have the dedication, and on top of that we didn't want to form good relations with WLI due to their positioning. As a result of no pact, they attacked us fairly, and won due to our chronic inactivity at that time.

I was not expecting half of the team to be so inactive, but again it rested on me for not making sure they could do the era properly. Massive oversight by me.

That being said, had I wanted to cooperate with WLI to attack JFA, it was wholeheartedly possible. However, looking at the team I had, I believed taking out WLI for their res ops would be better than letting them live due to the fact of diplo, and that I didn't trust them that much. Again, the team did not work like expected, which just sometimes happens.

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