It is currently Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:20 am

All times are UTC - 5 hours





Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:01 pm 
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:08 am
Posts: 288
I really don't know how to make this topic without just pointing at somebody and calling them an idiot, but I'll do my best to be nice here by just laying out a simple fact.

JFA is a SOLO ALLIANCE. We have no subs, we have no brother alliances, we have nothing. We have done everything on our own, never once asked a single alliance for help, nor have we made any deals with any particular alliances so they can finish at a certain rank.

YES we have a NAP with WLI, it is NOT round long and will come to an end sooner rather than later. Generally I dont mind what children say on the BC, but when its repeated over and over again, other alliances who may not know what is going on will start to think of it as fact. It is NOT fact.

BH was red on our screen from the day we joined and most of us had WLI marked purple to keep a close eye on them.

While I have no doubt that KJ will continue to blast lies on the BC, I would welcome any Melt or other alliances who think we are "teaming up" on them to please comment on this post and provide facts to back up their accusations.

Good day!


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:05 pm 
SM Moderator
SM Moderator
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Mon Oct 15, 2012 4:08 pm
Posts: 1591
Location: England
Gender: male
When you've been given NA, SA, AA, Europe and Africa with kill stats as low as 3k, who needs support? :P

_________________
ImageImageImage


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:07 pm 
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:08 am
Posts: 288
No arguments here, the competition is the lowest I've ever seen it on E1. Regardless, this post was to clear up any lies or rumors going around.

We weren't really GIVEN anything. We took Europe and Africa and started in SA/NA. COLD was smart enough to recognize the power and activity advantage we had over them and played it safe.


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:46 pm 
Specialist
Specialist
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:17 pm
Posts: 34
COLD = We don't think JFA are untouchable, but they have been really good to us and we wouldn't want to backstab them. We have an era long NAP with them and are guaranteed 3rd if we obide by some rules.

VoE = We have a long-term NAP with JFA. We realize they are dominating the world, but we don't really care. Yes, we're teaming up on "A" with COLD and also warring LFD. Too bad for you that they are the only alliances who agreed to help fight against JFA.

WLI = JFA are the guys we always play with, none of us are really active enough or even want to fight them.

^This is what I run into when trying to get other alliances to help prevent the world from being steamrolled. Screenshots to back it all up (if someone thinks I have the capability of fabricating all this).



Even *IF* JFA didn't ask for any help, still seems like you are receiving quite a bit. Having the freedom to expand the entire map uncontested is a huge advantage for anyone, don't you think?


If JFA truly wanted 10 players against the server, you wouldn't have offered long-term NAP's to every alliance except the one you plan to take out first.


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:28 pm 
Major
Major
User avatar
 WWW  Profile

Joined: Wed Jun 03, 2009 6:41 am
Posts: 3027
Location: Look outside of the window, look to the tree... See the figure? That's not me.
Gender: male
Miirage wrote:
COLD = We don't think JFA are untouchable, but they have been really good to us and we wouldn't want to backstab them. We have an era long NAP with them and are guaranteed 3rd if we obide by some rules.

VoE = We have a long-term NAP with JFA. We realize they are dominating the world, but we don't really care. Yes, we're teaming up on "A" with COLD and also warring LFD. Too bad for you that they are the only alliances who agreed to help fight against JFA.

WLI = JFA are the guys we always play with, none of us are really active enough or even want to fight them.

^This is what I run into when trying to get other alliances to help prevent the world from being steamrolled. Screenshots to back it all up (if someone thinks I have the capability of fabricating all this).



Even *IF* JFA didn't ask for any help, still seems like you are receiving quite a bit. Having the freedom to expand the entire map uncontested is a huge advantage for anyone, don't you think?


If JFA truly wanted 10 players against the server, you wouldn't have offered long-term NAP's to every alliance except the one you plan to take out first.


My leader can respond on the deals. All I have to say is,

"if only there had been an alliance with half decent players in AA, Africa and Europe to contest us..."

_________________
Best Regards,

Alexander V


Image


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:53 pm 
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:08 am
Posts: 288
Mirage, thanks for taking the time to respond so we can finally clear this bufoonery up.

COLD - Our NAP continues the entire ERA as long as they abide by the terms yes, they are the only alliance we have something like this with. I talked to their leader today about relics and explained to them that their place in the rankings is entirely up to them and that we do not guarantee them anything. Harvester may have promised them something earlier in the round, but both Barcos and I are on the same page with the fact that its completely up to them how they place. Our NAP can be broken with adequate tick warning (which we have established), so its not totally infallible. I can't imagine if they started anywhere else on the map that we'd have any kind of deal.

VOE - As far as I'm aware yes, they are under the impression that it is an era long NAP. I put a member of the alliance in charge of collecting information on any and all agreements we have with other alliances the day I took over. We have been unable to confirm this with Harvester so Im operating under the impression that they are fair game if they get in our way. While this is probably not the best way to handle the diplomacy angle of things, I am genuinely trying to clear our name here so I'm willing to risk it. Regardless of what Harvester agreed, it is not an era long NAP in my eyes and any issues from them would result in some hostility. When I took over, a few new rules came into place and deals like this (if they even existed) are null and void.

WLI - This has been the biggest fabrication so far, calling them our brother alliance or sub or whatever it is you guys have been yelling both in PM and on the BC. So because they are just chilling and not really playing, that automatically makes them our helpers? When you play this game as much as we do, you make a lot of friends, just because we have friends in an alliance that isn't attacking us does not make them anything but just that. If I'm being completely honest here, we/I have been actively keeping an eye on them since they are the only alliance on this map that could stop our progress. We respect their abilities and do not tread carelessly into their territory. If they were our brother alliance, why would we raize all of our ops out of China once we finished tracking down your random crap in Asia? Surely a brother alliance would let us post up shop right next to them and chill? Our NAP WAS only until 500 but was recently extended for a short period of time to see how the next bit of time goes.

Regardless, this is 3 alliances. Not ALL of them. One of which is NOT an era long NAP. And one will be broken if it's in our interest. The only thing this proves is that you yourself attempted to go around and get folks to gang up on us. While that is a fairly adequate reaction when being overpowered, some of your communications to other alliances came well before our war. So please dont sit here innocently, we just played the right cards.

Remember though Mirage, YOU attacked first. We probably coulda carried on peaceful for a bit longer after I left Africa, but then you hit my colony and poked the bear. There was no plan in place to war anyone, save for maybe BH because we love Kenny so much.


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:57 pm 
Specialist
Specialist
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Fri Nov 05, 2010 4:17 pm
Posts: 34
CptAmerica wrote:

WLI - This has been the biggest fabrication so far, calling them our brother alliance or sub or whatever it is you guys have been yelling both in PM and on the BC. So because they are just chilling and not really playing, that automatically makes them our helpers? When you play this game as much as we do, you make a lot of friends, just because we have friends in an alliance that isn't attacking us does not make them anything but just that.


Please be more specific with "you guys", I've seen ONE of my players going back and forth with yours over broadcast. Not to mention a JFA player fires the first shot in the broadcast flaming at least 80% of the time.


WLI is rank 2. COLD is rank 3. VoE is rank 4.

You don't see the problem here? Just because they aren't helping you attack us, doesn't mean they aren't helping you. You guys keep saying how you came here to win the "premier" server without any help, just 10 players against the world, at the same time having agreements or friends who won't attack you with all other top alliances.

I don't understand what JFA have to brag about. The indifference of anyone else strong?


Of course I'm going to try and get other alliances to attack you. I might have an alliance that's been falling apart from the start, and JFA trying to kill us for 300 ticks now, but I boosted here and would at least like to see a decent era.

One of these alliances were threatened in broadcast as well as in-game message (which was shown to me). Scared the living wits out of the poor guy, I could practically hear his hands shaking as he was typing the "I'm sorry but..." letter.

I message alliances to fight, you message them to bury their heads in the sand. Which is worse?


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:15 pm 
Second Lieutenant
Second Lieutenant
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:08 am
Posts: 288
Just because an alliance does not want to fight us or anyone period, does not mean their assisting us. VOE was ranked well under 4th when/if Harvester made that deal (which I said is more or less void when I took over). By attacking me, thus our alliance so early, you provoked us to have to make an additional deal with COLD due to their proximity to our area. I also believe they were ranked well below 3rd at the time as well.

If I'm not mistaken, at the start of the war the ranking went something along the line of this - 1st JFA 2nd MELT 3rd BH 4th WLI...I dont remember the rest. BH was red on our screen and you were red on our screen...so from very early on we had every intention of doing some quality fighting.

As it happens, COLD has the advantage of being in our territory and safe from our armies. No other alliances have that so they are able to pick up a couple conquers here and there and build in relative peace. That coupled with the war against A has helped them get up to 3rd, far from where they were when we made a deal out of convenience so we could concentrate on you. VOE has the same scenario in terms of the war with A, but they were able to snatch a few garrisons out from under WLI's nose..so their they are in the top 5.

You'll be dead soon, then you'll see how friendly we are with everyone when we can concentrate a bit more firepower elsewhere.

In all seriousness though, thanks for responding so we can have a somewhat "civil" conversation about this. Internally in the alliance, none of us feel like we've had any advantage besides activity, skill and some boosters. We get messages daily about people wanting to be subs, wanting to spy for us, wanting to help us, etc. Every time its the same thing "we dont want help". That's probably been said almost 100 times in our skype chat since the start of the round. Save for whatever deal was made early on with VOE (if any), I think we are more or less on course to do what we set out to do.


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:45 pm 
Private
Private
 Profile

Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2009 3:19 pm
Posts: 7
Gender: male
I (and apparently others, according to the broadcast) find the title of this thread laughable.

WLI Is your sub. They even took out BH (Braveheart) when the era began. Just like a good sub would.

And COLD was premised third-place in exchange for apathy.

You want everyone to think that you are winning alone? Mirage has pictures of too many emails… Including one from COLD admitting the plan. I will provide that picture myself. Please ask and I will provide that message specifically.

I only know one other player in this alliance… Mirage! I have never written a single word on this forum. My gameplay speaks for itself. You still don't have A Battle Report with my name on it and you are unlikely (not impossible… But close) to get one. As far as I know you beat 8 other players.

You were bragging that I was running, and that you had taken everything. I told you that I would personally apologize to your entire alliance if you could find my name on more than 2 outposts with my name on them. Please look again! I'm sure this will motivate you.

I have all 32 achievements, and you scoff at it. Please find the battle report that everyone is looking for, or the 3 outposts with my name on them. I've been beaten before and I don't mind losing to you, your sub, and your brother alliance. We have alliances as well, and we lost. Please shut up now.

My name is KJ and I don't know how it shows up here… Because I usually don't care about this stuff.


Top
 

 Post subject: Re: JFA is a solo alliance
PostPosted: Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:56 pm 
Sr. Moderator
Sr. Moderator
User avatar
 Profile

Joined: Sun Oct 30, 2011 5:09 am
Posts: 3362
Gender: male
Removed the double post.

_________________
Image


Top
 

Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 39 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next

All times are UTC - 5 hours



You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  

Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group  
Copyright Tacticsoft Ltd. 2008   
Updated By phpBBservice.nl