First, they didn't want to attack you (blue)
Then, they did want to attack you (red)

Is it just me or is this the maddest debate ever?

Who would ever announce that they were changing their in-alliance only status marker to their victim before they did it?

Fact - only MEMBERS OF YOUR OWN ALLIANCE can see who you have got marked what colour. There is a damn good reason for that - because it's no-one elses business.

It's a strategy game. What is wrong with the following strategies...?

1) Staging a surprise attack.
2) Attacking an enemy who is focussed on another target.
3) Encircling an enemy so their army can't escape
4) Taking an enemy's strategic assets
5) Not telling your enemy that you will be doing 1-4 beforehand...

It's up to an alliance to decide who their enemies are, whether those enemies know it or not.

some people think it was stupid of F69 , some people think it was a great move. I can not judge about it .It would only bring more discussion. but I have heard that the nap between ML and F69 was done. So it is not backstab. Like most people say. It is sad for ML. But this is the game I like to help them as I did against UE. Only a pity that f 69 attacked them . as ML is at war with rank 3 Alliance( UE )

greetz Tootje of Blacktemple

we wont forget what you did tootje
Also this.....
keep your friends close, and your enemies closer. ( Sun-tzu
Chinese general & military strategist ~400 BC)

It's so funny that you mentioned about Sun Tzu but one pharse won't make you wiser - you should at least read them all - there is a lot you can learn from, like from these two:

- All war is based on deception
- The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself.


In your case it was self-deception what had made you belived that bringing tousends of units into africa/asia would still keep us neutral and indeed your defeat in asia was provided by yourself.

Let's lock this thread, nobody is getting anywhere. It's the same banter back and forth the last 5 pages.

It's over and done with. Let's all move on.