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 Post subject: Re: Admins deciding who wins CE...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:33 pm 
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Im sorry, but did I accuse you of anything?

Ive been talking to Platinum over this, trying to coordinate what I though was supposed to be the intended result before I meddled by banning UMANG 2 days ago...

So, your allaince leader is telling me he is to come and join as a sub member or something, and is trying to relocate, and I ahve you telling me that I am dictating who is winning the era...

Can you tell me why your allaince leader tells me these things, and you are telling me something completely different??

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:42 pm 
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I am not. Karl is a nice guy. He cares about perceptions and all. It was a few guys that decided all of a sudden they will join us and help us. I know at first there was no communication as to where this guy or 2 other colonies that keep telling us they will help us in any way was going to do, Trully Random guys. THey plant op we take. Period. I know now that Karl got involved at some point and made a bulletin not to attack. Since I am not in fear of getting banned our displeasing the GOds (sic) oh I meant admins I am addressing it. I am grateful that admins are paying more attention but I would prefer the admin make the op disappear because they give us a disadvantage in a big war.

I speak not out of disrespect but because I know my team and we don't cheat. This is hindering us from defending our hive in the best manner.

I am not a full time BD player. I play to win then take a break so you wont remember me. Therefor I can address this issue..

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Ive heard of people in enemy teams having friends make ops in enemy hives to try and cause bans before. But I really wish that people could play the game more honorably. I really dislike finding out about situations like this happening.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins deciding who wins CE...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:48 pm 
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Mate, Platinum Sage is your allaince leader. I had already banned UMANG and deleted the ops, and none of you or your alliance was accused of, or banned for anything.

It was only after this that Platinum confirmed UMANG's story (as he was appealing his ban) that he was supposed to relocate to your area and form or join a sub, or something like that.

By this point, is no longer some random guy. I have the banned party and the alliance leader telling me the same story.

So, I release, he tries again and I have a message from Karl


[4/12/2013 9:29:15 PM] Karl (Platinum Sage): hi 1 one my player by mistake took UMANG ops can you make them into camps? or allow UMANG to capture them again?

So I tell him not to allow them to be razed, and let the guy take them back. It beats me having to remove them again and issue warnings. Let the guy play, let things play out...

And now I have you telling me that I should have just banned UMANG, and that your allaince leader, what? Is confused?

Please clarify.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins deciding who wins CE...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 1:52 pm 
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That's is my point slinky. Now we are not at war but all in Sage is guys we know. We would only allow people within a certain tick from us over if we knew them personally. Umang we don't know personally. But because he planted so many op by us and it being a stick situation where we don't want to take them as to seem like we are cheating and Karl being the nice guy is like okay you can join etc.., I wonder would the goal be to make sure that we are not perceived as cheating. What is this random guy going to do to help us in war...NOt much. One colony. So I am ticked.

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Seth I apologize for bringing this particular situation up. I was not aware that you discussed it so closely with Karl. I know of another person that made op's that we was literally afraid to take due to not wanting to get banned and receiving messages from Karl that we should stay away from them so admins wont think we are cheating. I hope you understand my frustration. There has to be another way to address this in the future. I spend 2k reds a day and keep 1k workers if I want an op I will make it. I hate having to worry about warning or getting banned over this non sense.

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Please do not double post, simply edit your previous message.

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 Post subject: Re: Admins deciding who wins CE...
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Aww naw man...Dont be afraid to defend yourselves!
Take the ops if you must, just report them if you are worried about it, and let the admin take care of it from there.

Thats the whole point here mate. I am trying not to ban people if I dont have to ;)

No worries mate. Its the CE. I understand tensions are high! Have Karl keep in touch with me over the matter, and we will be ok. :)

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As for anything else in this era, as well as other eras, if there are anything u don't understand about, talk to the parties involved, as well as the admins. I'm pretty sure they, or at least the admins, will be more than willing to help u.

and refrain from making personal judgement before u understand the whole situation >.<

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1. When a player builds lots of outposts, its reasonable for an admin to suspect that these outposts were built for the purposes of farming. Investigating is an admin's job.

2. Once the investigation is complete, as it appears from the chat Karl as well as Umang had with Seth, the admin should have left the outposts alone. Who takes those outposts, why it was laid there, who was supposed to relocate where or join whatever alliance, is none of anyone's business.

Seth, after you investigated and determined that it wasnt outpost farming, you should have washed your hands off the problem.

In this case, you did too much. When Karl told you:

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[4/12/2013 9:29:15 PM] Karl (Platinum Sage): hi 1 one my player by mistake took UMANG ops can you make them into camps? or allow UMANG to capture them again?


you should have told him, "Its none of my business, its not outpost farming, so you handle your alliance or whoever joins the sub".

Am not even sure why Karl went to the admin in the first place.

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