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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 8:29 pm 
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Actually noob bashing has gone down a lot. Mainly b/c there are more battles, players, builds ect.
All the weapons are still possible to get but if all the legendary weapons were available to everyone again it would be the same as before update which is bad and won't happen. As long as you have a good torso I'd say about any build can win against anyone at the moment.

Understand while the older players may have an advantage atm it wont last forever too.


It clearly hasn't. There's still people collecting huge winning streaks across a range of levels. There's still only a handful dominating the game, no different to before, except made worse because it's across all levels now.

And no, it's a mix of everything that makes your mech win. LC use to beat me all the time on the old update because he was much smarter than me on the game. Now the update has come out, he is 2 mech levels ahead of me, we have the same torso, yet I beat him all the time purely because I have more legendary equipment than him.

Also older players will keep that advantage, especially at level 15. They have a large collection of legendary items for their levels. Players passing through these levels won't stick around in the level long enough to collect enough legendary items to compete. The only level that will start to balance out eventually is level 30.


Andy try staying consistent with your argument on the last page you agreed that noob bashing has decreased but wasn't gone. No one here is saying its gone we are saying its becoming less of a problem.

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:23 pm 
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I don't think I have ever agreed that noob bashing has gone. If you think I have said that then you have misread it and quote it so I explain what I really meant. There is no doubt that noob bashing has increased and figures show it... There are a handful of players smashing the levels you can succesfully fight at (which up to know seem level 15, 22ish and 30) and unless you have a couple legenedary items equiped you can't compete... therefore noob bashing.


But please quote where I have said noob bashing doesn't exist and I will explain myself more, because I don't believe I could say noob bashing is less frequent in the latest update. It's only been made worse.

If you are talking about LOWER LEVELS then I agree they are FAIRLY BALANCED.... that is all I have said. However as you increase in levels the difference between none rare items, and rare item damages increase. The best way to play the game is to have the most damage possible the most possible range of battle. The best possible way of doing this is having as many legendary legendary weapons that cover as many possible ranges as your mech cover. My level 22 has a max range of 6. Of which range 1 and 3-5, all can be hit with legendary weapons. Because of this I can hit more damage than noob mechs who haven't been able to collect as many rare items as I have, so I can't lose to a noob... only someone who covers more legendary weapon range than me (and can also keep their shield up, which is a must at higher level fights) can beat me.

Even at level 15 the legendary weapons must be much stronger than the normal weapons, else Mr OneTwo wouldn't have got a 180+ winning streak. The exclusivity of legendary items means the mechs that optained these items pre-new patch can't be beaten unless they come across someone with equal or more legendary items, or someone with 1 or 2 less legendary items but are much smarter than you.

Only at very low levels are the differences between weapon damages so small that you can build a mech that doesn't allow you to noob bash. Once you reach level 15+, which is the open level for all players, are you screwed over by the legendary weapons. Since it's impossible to aquire these items it's impossible to compete, so noob bashing is a lot more frequent across multiple ranges of levels rather than just levels around 23 on the old update.

I hope that helps make sense of what I have said before.

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 4:14 am 
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The epic and legendary weapons are actually far stronger than their common counterparts.

Hot Shot (Legendary) has the same damage (34), range (2-3), knockback (1) and slot as the Red Rein (Common). But it causes more heat on the opponent (+1), less heat on you (-9) and has lower level requirements (-8).
If you try to compare it to a weapon with somehow similar level requirements (like the level 9 Lava Blaster), you can see that the base damage is about the same as a fully fusion-powered common item. As on higher levels fusion becomes very expensive, this shows how big the difference is.

Especially interesting and also found on high level weapons (Missle Battery Mark III, Level 30, Epic) is that it not only causes high damage, but also causes more heat on the opponent than on you.


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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 5:12 pm 
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A new update (v 4.F if I'm not wrong) and still not any balance on the weps (sword still less powerful than legs)

Since you messed up so bad I definitively leave the game. Thank you for wasting my time on hours of fighting to obtain items now meaningless, and thank you to insult all of us by not doing your job properly.

I wrote an article times ago to recommand your game on a popular French speaking blog, be sure I will recommand now to my readers to NOT play your game if they are looking for a good game.

I wish you all the best, and congratulates you for how you destroyed a very funny game.


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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 10:30 pm 
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a funny game? lol
anyway another thing is that rocket weapons are massively overpowered. they work their way through heat shields like they are nothing and do bs damage. there are people that just launch rockets and dont even put their droids out beating good players that use heat shields and beam/heat weapons, sorry but this is just crazy long weapon rockets is where the power is at now and the trend is showing

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
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Yeah it WAS funny, because obtening best items was accessible for everyone, making the game competitive, and there wasn't a "perfect build" capable of beating any others builds, sign of an equilibrate game.

Another funny part was the use of the swords...

But now devs & mods are so full of themselves they only listen gamers kissing their and don't care about us. So yeah you're right, keep listening noobs but well mannered players such as korupt, and keep not giving a of what good gamers have to said, like Filipas, like starwa7s, like myself.

I don't even understand why I'm keeping wasting time here talking to those hopeless monkeys. Keep touching & congratulate yourselves, until nobody wants to play your game.

Oh, and another thing, dear dev' moderators:
Have you seen philippin people / mexican people / brasilian people making reports here? Why I'm asking this? On the facebook page of SM, almost only people from these locations likes & comment. I start to understand why you make the game a pay to win and why you don't listen to us ;)

So yeah keep stealing the money of them, who cares, with where they come from if they can play this game they must be spoiled brats.


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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
PostPosted: Mon Oct 14, 2013 8:59 am 
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Yeah it WAS funny, because obtening best items was accessible for everyone, making the game competitive, and there wasn't a "perfect build" capable of beating any others builds, sign of an equilibrate game.

Another funny part was the use of the swords...

But now devs & mods are so full of themselves they only listen gamers kissing their and don't care about us. So yeah you're right, keep listening noobs but well mannered players such as korupt, and keep not giving a of what good gamers have to said, like Filipas, like starwa7s, like myself.

I don't even understand why I'm keeping wasting time here talking to those hopeless monkeys. Keep touching & congratulate yourselves, until nobody wants to play your game.

Oh, and another thing, dear dev' moderators:
Have you seen philippin people / mexican people / brasilian people making reports here? Why I'm asking this? On the facebook page of SM, almost only people from these locations likes & comment. I start to understand why you make the game a pay to win and why you don't listen to us ;)

So yeah keep stealing the money of them, who cares, with where they come from if they can play this game they must be spoiled brats.


Alright edited for language, merged your posts, and fixed the spelling of my name since you threw it in there.
As for why people may listen to me (although it is not like I have some direct connection with Michael or what I say is valued more than others). I suggest ways to improve on what is in place, yes I understand you don't like the game as it is now but parts are definitely improved so why not build on those concepts rather than say tear it all down? The dev's love suggestions to improve their games, it is their bread and butter. This is more than just a game to them it is their baby and they have spent countless hours creating and updating it. So again why not take the positives and build on them, suggest ways that you can improve this area or that area. If people only complain rather than give their thoughts on how it can be improved who is to say the attempt at fixing it won't just bother you more? This is your chance to voice what you think will help and what you think will hurt, take your chance and leave your mark on the game.

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
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Korupt wrote:
khalia wrote:
Yeah it WAS funny, because obtening best items was accessible for everyone, making the game competitive, and there wasn't a "perfect build" capable of beating any others builds, sign of an equilibrate game.

Another funny part was the use of the swords...

But now devs & mods are so full of themselves they only listen gamers kissing their and don't care about us. So yeah you're right, keep listening noobs but well mannered players such as korupt, and keep not giving a of what good gamers have to said, like Filipas, like starwa7s, like myself.

I don't even understand why I'm keeping wasting time here talking to those hopeless monkeys. Keep touching & congratulate yourselves, until nobody wants to play your game.

Oh, and another thing, dear dev' moderators:
Have you seen philippin people / mexican people / brasilian people making reports here? Why I'm asking this? On the facebook page of SM, almost only people from these locations likes & comment. I start to understand why you make the game a pay to win and why you don't listen to us ;)

So yeah keep stealing the money of them, who cares, with where they come from if they can play this game they must be spoiled brats.


Alright edited for language, merged your posts, and fixed the spelling of my name since you threw it in there.
As for why people may listen to me (although it is not like I have some direct connection with Michael or what I say is valued more than others). I suggest ways to improve on what is in place, yes I understand you don't like the game as it is now but parts are definitely improved so why not build on those concepts rather than say tear it all down? The dev's love suggestions to improve their games, it is their bread and butter. This is more than just a game to them it is their baby and they have spent countless hours creating and updating it. So again why not take the positives and build on them, suggest ways that you can improve this area or that area. If people only complain rather than give their thoughts on how it can be improved who is to say the attempt at fixing it won't just bother you more? This is your chance to voice what you think will help and what you think will hurt, take your chance and leave your mark on the game.


if you've been paying attention, peoples way of fixing it is return the game to how it used to be

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
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LC that is not fixing or improving that is moving backwards.

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 Post subject: Re: WHAT IS IT GOING TO TAKE??
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it is improving. it is making a game fun like it used to be without constant complaints

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