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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 5:58 pm 
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lilconquer wrote:
thing is it costs more to use kits, like take lvl 33 for example an on lvl kit costs 3,300 and the rewards for winning is 2,600 so if you're using all the resistance kits and a health kit then you are losing a lot of money


Well let's calculate the best outcome here... you spend 3,000 per game on resists and you earn say 2,300 per game (average). If you hit the #1 slot on the weekly challenge, you get 200K - divided by the 1,000 you spend per game you'd end up with 200 wins stacked up to break even.

I don't know how the weekly top 3 are figured and it's an extremely rough calculation... only point is the profit potential is there.


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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:16 pm 
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Filipas wrote:
neither of those you mentioned are not hard for me :D . Niko yes, is using kits every time he playes against me, i beat Cillius most of the time, Bumblebee catch me when i dont have a specific configuration against him, but then i ll change my setup and i can easly beat him....0000, the same...Mechzilla the same, 80 % of the time i beat him. hell, i can beat anyone with the right setup and all players can beat anyone if they spend some time studying the weapons, kits, torsos, etc. just choose the right weapons and torsos for the right opponent, and you ll find you can win easly...here, i ll post the names of players who offered me A GOOD and FUN fight: Mechanism, Cillius, 0000, Captain, SideoneDummy, LC, Mechzilla, Hattrickjmr, Tornadovtm (wich doesent play anymore) . and yes, i dont like players wich are using resistance kits, i find those to be proofs of cowardiance. anyway , they get vaporized :D . i know, i am cocky now, but i deserve it :D. aaa, i almost forgot Paradoxon....for all those players mentioned here, TONS OF RESPECT... also, if i am on the bragging mode, i ll post that i beat the crap out of OptimusPrime today...with the same moves and tactics...i hoped that he can adapt....


I see kits as a tool and part of the build - you can either have an HP build or a build that compensates for lower HP by using kits, in the same manner as having a heat vs. energy build.

But to your point - I suppose every player using a shield is a coward also, so let's eliminate all of the game strategic aspects and have a sword fighting contest to the death!

As far as tough players go - I will echo the point that every player can be beat, given that you can adapt to the situation and vary your build w/a little common sense.

Solid players in my eyes - Side, 0000, BumbleBee, Cloud, Mechanism, Mike, Lorinser, LC, just to name a few.

At this point the game builds are largely explored/utilized so it is a matter of having a specific build against another player (build).


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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 6:47 pm 
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i didnt want to attack someone, but this is just my oppinion , if you put words on my mouth, that s your problem, not mine. i dont consider using shield as being cowardiance, just the use of the resistance kits. thats all.


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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 7:03 pm 
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Filipas wrote:
i didnt want to attack someone, but this is just my oppinion , if you put words on my mouth, that s your problem, not mine. i dont consider using shield as being cowardiance, just the use of the resistance kits. thats all.


It is not my intent to attack you or anyone either and everyone is entitled to having their opinion - I am merely stating mine and pointing out some "gaps" that I came across (in this thread).

The game offers a number of features to boost your defense - e.g., shield, resistance modules and resistance kits. It is up to the players to decide how to utilize the game features to their advantage...

...Another side of the coin...

- Niko


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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 8:35 pm 
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Filipas wrote:
neither of those you mentioned are not hard for me :D . Niko yes, is using kits every time he playes against me, i beat Cillius most of the time, Bumblebee catch me when i dont have a specific configuration against him, but then i ll change my setup and i can easly beat him....0000, the same...Mechzilla the same, 80 % of the time i beat him. hell, i can beat anyone with the right setup and all players can beat anyone if they spend some time studying the weapons, kits, torsos, etc. just choose the right weapons and torsos for the right opponent, and you ll find you can win easly...here, i ll post the names of players who offered me A GOOD and FUN fight: Mechanism, Cillius, 0000, Captain, SideoneDummy, LC, Mechzilla, Hattrickjmr, Tornadovtm (wich doesent play anymore) . and yes, i dont like players wich are using resistance kits, i find those to be proofs of cowardiance. anyway , they get vaporized :D . i know, i am cocky now, but i deserve it :D. aaa, i almost forgot Paradoxon....for all those players mentioned here, TONS OF RESPECT... also, if i am on the bragging mode, i ll post that i beat the crap out of OptimusPrime today...with the same moves and tactics...i hoped that he can adapt....
Agreed with most of what you say. But some players are better when it comes to general design (the mech design you fight against before you change your own stuff). The thing is, the good players I fought will change for me, and I will change for them — eventually creating a moot fight. If anyone gets to that point with me, I consider them a great opponent and an honor to lose against them.

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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:01 pm 
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lol gee im getting love from filipas and niko considering me a tough solid player :p i thought i was still noob :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:29 pm 
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lilconquer wrote:
lol gee im getting love from filipas and niko considering me a tough solid player :p i thought i was still noob :lol:

noob? you are level 83!

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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 3:39 am 
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i still search for the almost perfect setup that can deal with most of my opponent setups :D


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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 1:47 pm 
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SideOneDummy wrote:
lilconquer wrote:
lol gee im getting love from filipas and niko considering me a tough solid player :p i thought i was still noob :lol:

noob? you are level 83!

ya but i still dont think of myself as that great of a player compared to most people here

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 Post subject: Re: tough opponents
PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:20 am 
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It has been a while, but these 2 players give me a hard time every time I battle against them.

Deflowerer and JustG.

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ya but i still dont think of myself as that great of a player compared to most people here


You are a great player. You did beat me anyways. ;)
Then again, I may just be bad at the game...

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