Actually iS was on it's way to finally squash Lain once and for all. WAKE was a pit-stop.

We had agreed to let SAS and WAKE fight it out alone, and got a msg from WAKE asking us to take their crystals in the event a loss was imminent. (Due to their at that time hatred of SAS)

After 2 members left WAKE and 2 more were conquered it was pretty much just Raider and LUZ left.

I sent Raider a msg saying "it's over" and we sent a few squads to take the crystals with minimal losses per our agreement. Our squads were killed and I got a msg pretty much saying we can take SAS 3 on 12.

At which point I had some of us turn our guys towards WAKE, since Raider clearly couldn't see the writing on the wall. I was also threatend with LC's and another WAKE members entire armies which had been safely protected on our continent. So they were also destroyed in a battle which cost SwAgZ 4 squads. (Sorry about that LC I didn't want to but didn't have a choice)

Upon seeing this Raider and LUZ decided to move their units for SAS. In order to give them the crystals and the win.

and if I hadn't given my word to Dutchy that I wouldn't attack SOS.... LUZ would still be trying to save his army.

I have no respect for those who leave their alliances in their time of need. And I absolutely want nothing to do with players who will openly go to the enemy and offer to backstab their alliance. As LUZ did several times this era.


Now I remember why I left for two years....

haha i was moving to my colony but i never logged on again to move them it's cool and good luck spyda you are a good guy and you deserve your win

I have no respect for players who say one thing then do something else. Don't say something if your not going to do it.

hey i never said anything and incase you didnt notice when the war started i was no longer leader

I wasn't talking about you LC

ok good i like keeping my reputation as a respectable player even though i have now retired and will only come on the forums at times

Yeah the end of WAKE was a mess. Sorry LC.

I had tried to get my friend Underisle to join ever since TFF/WAKE started making a regular habit of kicking members and conquering them. Especially after the whole LUZ thing.... He was going to stay with TFF till the end, had they not pretty much surrendered. I think it's a crap hand when your alliance falls apart like that. I've had it happen in less dire circumstances.

Sorry we got in your way on the Lain thing Spyda. We had been planning a war against them for some time as well.

actualy random nub and DJ left the people i kicked in the beginning were 60 tiks inactive

You had a reason for every boot you made. From afar though, TFF was making a regular habit of kicking a member and conquering them for their crystals every few hundred ticks. Coupled with LUZ's reputation itt made me concerned for my friend

i kicked people for a good and legit reason mainly inactivity and 1 person refusing to follow my orders your friend was very loyal active and helpful and i never kicked anyone so i could have there crystals we had random nub though making people so mad they left the alliance like kairox