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 Post subject: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 2:21 am 
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The Wise and Friendly alliance, the founder of a sub empire with 4 subs in the top 10 has fallen. Perhaps not permanently, that is yet to be seen. But having suffered many a blow from without and especially from within, the giant has toppled beneath it's own weight and is succeeded by its own sub alliances in the rankings now.

The Wise and Friendly alliance was lead by the affable and honorable to a fault SirSkipwith. As the strongest left of his alliance, SirSkip has relocated from his alliance's hive position twice within the last week, the first time only to be met with treachery within his own ranks. Perhaps soon, he will find a more permanent home.

The number one spot has been deftly succeeded by the TFF alliance. It is not clear whether IS or TFF benefited most from this latest war. Until TFF accepted the WFA turncoat LUZ into their own ranks, IS rose from 3rd place to take the crown for a day or so.

One must analyze and ponder the key points leading up to this event. WFA began the game with a serious edge but their tendency towards peace and honor caused SirSkipwith to boot his own most powerful player... NinjaTurtles, over a series of border and NAP disputes. WFA made off with something like 40 crystals, retaining their #1 rank, but lost a great deal of sheer power at the same time. The alliance territory map was drastically altered overnight, as the entire middle of the map changed from WFA's hunting grounds to anybody's. TFF capitalized on this situation by somehow convincing SirSkip to leave the area to them. SirSkip did not question this until it was already too late and TFF's power rating had risen too high.

At this point, WFA had to do something. They had ceded too much territory over in an NAP they felt deceived in. Attempting to alter it proved fruitless and it was just the excuse TFF needed to declare war upon the starving #1 alliance.

Now whether it was because he was a TFF plant all along or because he was uneasy after what happened to NinjaTurtles, or perhaps he just was a little drunk with the prospective power he could gain, the leading player in score in WFA, LUZ, switched sides in the middle of the war, conquering at least 3 of the WFA members and throwing WFA from 1st to a distant 5th place.

LUZ has just finally relocated to the TFF main area and SirSkip retreated to the isles of SAS to the south east. Will WFA remain and try to rebuild or scatter to the winds? They still have 4 sub alliances beneath them, but now that the main has suffered such a blow, will they listen to them? What of LUZ and TFF? Will Littleconquerer have the same problems controlling LUZ that SirSkipwith had? What will SAS do about WFA's leader taking refuge within their own borders?

The era is yet young and so much has already happened. I'm really having a good time here. Please post your own opinions and personal viewpoints on the matter. I know not a lot of forum goers play F4 but Spyda, Tenkai, and little conquerer are all definitely floating around here somewhere and are all major forces in game.

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 8:59 am 
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I think littleconqueror is making a mistake taking LUZ in his alliance. Like Ive said numerous times before, I would NEVER take a traitor like that into my own alliance. Why? Because he is selfish, noobish and has zero sense of teamplay. Lets say TFF and SAS war each other, what if LUZ betrays TFF in order to retain his crystals, score and rank? That is the precise reason he betrayed WFA and took their crystals to TFF. So in my opinion he is one aweful player, and his rank doesnt mean anything.

As for WFA, they failed simply because they are new to the game. They dont have much strategy, knowledge about builds, knowledge how to war and how to negotiate territory. If I play on F4, no one will ever tell me where to expand. I will expand wherever I want, and if someone attacks I will directly take them on. If they wish to negotiate all I will give them is a 6 ticks distance from each others hive, but share area with them and adhere to a NAP strictly. In the meantime, make sure the 6 tick distance isnt available for them to build outposts :D

I hope WFA players learn from this, and improve and become better teamplayers next time onwards :)

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 10:44 am 
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IF LUZ betrays we will deal with him, efficiently and precisely. We aren't exactly noobs here in TFF.

I hear a lot about how skip is supposedly a very honorable guy and i respected that.

But then he and his clan kept breaching the very conditions of the naps they issued.

After skip lost 1/2 his army to a failed attempt at taking one of TFF's conquers he declared war on us.

While we weren't happy with them constantly breaching the nap, we stayed true to our word and simply countered this treachery while staying within the conditions of the nap they proposed.

As a FA min with a 91.7% success rate in negotiations(not exaggerated), i find myself greatly disappointed at how difficult they made my job and how underhanded WFA's way of ignoring the naps they came to us with(3 times), and not to mention the fact of how obvious it was, constantly taking ops in our territory and turning them into gates and towers, and some even training bases.

I guess i'll conclude my reply now

well i look forward to the rest of the era

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:00 am 
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He doesnt really have to betray you. Its enough he looks out for himself, and be conveniently unavailable for battles. I would suggest you guys kill his squads and take his crystals.

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:13 am 
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if he doesn't participate as a team player then we might do that
it all depends

atm he is being loyal

so for the time being we will let him

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 11:16 am 
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he is also fighting and going solo on the subs since we havent made it there in time so far he has proven to be a good player

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:51 pm 
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lilconqueror wrote:
he is also fighting and going solo on the subs since we havent made it there in time so far he has proven to be a good player

Key word so far. If he betrays u later on in the game when the relics are out u are stuffed. Aside from the fact that u could take him! But if he relocates, it might get ugly....

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 5:48 pm 
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OK, Im kairox...

If Luz Betray TFF... is because im noob...
Thats all i can said...

Right now he is Loyal to me... and Im loyal to lC...

And LUZ take that Crystals Because i talk with him... and i teach somethings...

We are colombians boys...

And please Stop, LUZ is not a betrayer... just he is tired to play with that noobs...!

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:01 pm 
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carlos15 wrote:
OK, Im kairox...

If Luz Betray TFF... is because im noob...
Thats all i can said...

Right now he is Loyal to me... and Im loyal to lC...

And LUZ take that Crystals Because i talk with him... and i teach somethings...

We are colombians boys...

And please Stop, LUZ is not a betrayer... just he is tired to play with that noobs...!

Cheers...

my point exactly and incase you guys havent noticed we arent noobs

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 Post subject: Re: WFA Falls - Commentary on the era so far
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:37 pm 
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lilconqueror wrote:
carlos15 wrote:
OK, Im kairox...

If Luz Betray TFF... is because im noob...
Thats all i can said...

Right now he is Loyal to me... and Im loyal to lC...

And LUZ take that Crystals Because i talk with him... and i teach somethings...

We are colombians boys...

And please Stop, LUZ is not a betrayer... just he is tired to play with that noobs...!

Cheers...

my point exactly and incase you guys havent noticed we arent noobs

yep tff arnt noobs...... they are great players, who stick together and know how to win a war..

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