Are you not reading what he just said??
Jeeze, he said and posted pics. to prove. That murari agreed to be allies. Agreeing to be allies MEANS you are allies. Whether its marked or not. Thus this was a backstab, BY a sub abusing alliance.
Very sad, ISKC, very sad. All respect I had for any of you is completely and utterly gone.

undead, look at the topic title, not NBK, but AoG

and if ur leader don't mark ur allies then he got a real problem

What is worse, an alliance with subs, or an alliance that cheats? I dislike subs as well. But what can I do? IV wouldnt accept me, they think I'm some random newb, and all the others are weak. ISKC was there, so I took my oppurtunity.

still we are talking about AoG not NBK =P
and subs are a loophole in the rules, so kinda breaking the rules=cheating also

and IV had preplanned members, and the last spots that apeared after some members had some problems got filled by members higher ranked/stronger then you

Umm, do you want me to answer truthfully?
Heres the truth: Depends how bad the cheating is. They do it for a few extra rescources. Meh, not as bad as 7 subs yet.
They do what NBK did, yeah worse than 7 subs but not by much.
Cheating is cheating its never accepted and everyone knows that. Now people will learn subs are not accepted either.
I mean 1 or 2-understandable but still not accepted by the community.
7-Now thats just crazy. Your just embarassing yourself by doing that.

Thats just my thoughts though....

Just one sub and some alliances are accepted. More than that and its way to much.

You say I'm embarrasing myself? I'm not the leader. I didn't authorize these subs. I was tought by Apollo, Kane, Shion, and Guarav, all hate subs, and I'm not a fan either. But what choice do I have? Go join a random weak alliance and get crushed? IV thinks I'm a newb, and ISKC is strong, whether you want to admit it or not. We, can at least fight, and have a good fun era. Which is what BD is all about.

i were in ISKC last round with diffrent name, not much fun, it seriusly got so boring i quit the alliance even if they would get a 10 relic win and i could have said i were with them, but i seriusly didn't want to say i were with them
to many subs

and the reason why we are speaking to you undead is because by posting here you represent ISKC, and therefor represent sub abuse and backstabbers (not saying it's all the members, cuz by the look of it here it's fully the leaders fault)

Ok, you keep calling me out about talking about you. When fact of the matter is i'm addressing mainly the leader when I say ISKC, as I know you make no calls or have any ability to decide this.
What i'm saying is its embarassing to even be seen with an alliance like that, no i'm not telling you to run or flee ISKC but i'm saying its just kinda embarassing.
And who in IV said you are a noob? Not a single person, I can guarantee you no one said, Undead you are a noob.
If you can prove me wrong great if not quit saying we think your a noob, which is evidentaly not the case, or your a really good donating spammer of armour units.
(Only other way your power would be so high already, spam armour or actualy be good)

Mehh. It is my first era on battledawn, and I want to make it a special one. ISKC has given me that oppurtunity.