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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:31 pm 
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Regarding this, if we outnumber you per players during each attack, that only says bad things about your teams cooperation and activity. Are we supposed to handicap ourselves to make it fair? I think not.

that says nothing about our team cooperation, what it says is what it says. We had other things going on in other parts of the world. You know what i am talking about. It was never 1 alliance vs 1 alliance. Even for our side against yours, but we had to deal with etme (sexy) also.
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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 4:28 pm 
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RFs, RF1, RF vs SEXY and GOO? Are you really complaining about numbers?

Please, stop trying to make excuses for multiple losses.


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Can I post the F3DS brs here :D there was quite a few good ones and I feel it has been forgotten :P

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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:43 am 
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RFs, RF1, RF vs SEXY and GOO? Are you really complaining about numbers?

Please, stop trying to make excuses for multiple losses.


show me some br of RFs or RF1 doing anything you had more problems with TRD. stop trying to make your battles bigger than they were. SEXY and GOO two active alliances. enough said


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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 1:45 am 
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Did KRAP not kill RF1 early in the era?


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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:22 am 
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o.o ... Weeeeelll i think i can clear this one up with a synopsis of the entire era considering I was in KRAP and also GOO, as the Minister of War.
So, KRAP (myself, Kapp and Kron from GOO last era) and ETME or whatver their names was (Cyn, Alea, and Mike from GOO last era) were completely separate entities to start.
RF took advantage of this and decided to try to kill KRAP while we were... not trying? They sent in the subs immediately. This resulted in RF1 and RFx coming down to JC isle (yes, I have my own Isle... b/c I'm Julius MF Caesar), and both alliances getting curbed stomped by myself, kapp, and fannypack. Essentially us 3, killed about 8 armies, using a diverse array of tactics, and spies. PRYANA was in RF1 at this time, and fleed the area as soon as he realized we were about to destroy his alliance. (He will be the marker to watch in this war)

At this time, KRAP realized... Hey, these guys really have it out for us, they must know who we are. and assumed it was WWs and whatever other losers we owned from last era who scrambled together in a last ditch effort to defeat us.

We were right. RF them came over in a very impressive, 250+ ship invasion, early era that quite frankly left me in awe.... and then we saw their mostly cav armour and damage armies, and laughed our arses off. From that point on, I made a mental note of their army build and timing. Some of us had relocation OPs north, which we used to buy time and move near ETME as an ally.

After RF got tired (which i noted as well) they moved back home, slowly. We licked our wounds. ETME had their first clash with RF around this time, and got owned due to poor leadership and mixed chassis. This battle resulted in RF gaining confidence in their skills, as ETME didnt even break armour. I mark this point as the APEX of RF, and the DECLINE of EMTE.

Phase 1
KRAP then began to reform, and accept members of Sexy (ETME) and floating members of GOO into the alliance, one by one, until we were full. Pryana then joined RF to make them even stronger. He was the number 1 player at this time. We then had an assualt from RFs that we successfully navigated and defeated. RFx then tried their hand again, and were crushed to the point of disbandment.

At this time, with RF very firmly at the top with over 2000 power, to our 1100ish, they decided to attack and attempt to finish us off. They moved in with a great amount of ships, likely close to 350. They immediately displayed their confidence, and separated, attacking colonies in smaller groups, and even going for the relics. At this point, with such a smack in the face, the decision was made to forego crystals and go for armies. The first victim of this decision was PRYANA and Darth Bane. Pryana was matched eta off of a conquering of Stomach flu, due to us allowing him to have the crystals, without hitting shield. Darth Bane attempted to save him by sending in his army. Now, understand. Bane was cav, mostly armour and damage. Pryana was all inf, as were we. So Bane died mostly in the first round, and Pryana had to fight us essentially solo. Never the less, it was a rout.

At this time, I believe RF understood it would not be going down as easy as they believed and started to turn back to their OP. This is the single most significant action they took, as had they waited one more tick to turn, they all would have died due to different return etas. We attacked their Back op anyway, in order to face their army in waves, instead of at once. Realizing the first battle was too close for their comfort and already having lost two members, General Patton had to relocate his colony into our hive to save their army. This marks the point where RF understood, we were no longer here to watch. We were here to kill them all.

Phase 2
General Patton, stranded in the middle of our hive, with all of us capable of defending against their 250 ships left, then began to take dragon fire. Each and every member of KRAP sent dragon after dragon at Patton. Of his own admission, he had to spend 40 bucks in order to ion in excess of 30 dragons, launched at him to save his comrades armies. Alas, boosting only lasts so long and eventually the dragons started to get through resulting in Patton getting a tiny little colony lol. The armies moved out at the time they understood, ioning was no longer an option. We attempted to conquer Patton but he relocated 3 ticks before we could. Congrats to RF, their first major assault on the now fully-operational GOO, resulted in utter failure and embarrassment. Starting with 2100 power, they now had 1700 and we remained generally near 1100. The game was now on. The GOO flag was raised, and my name was changed from "Stick in your Bum" to "Julius MF Caesar" to symbolize play time officially being over.

After the first hive assault, RF never again got the guts to attack our hive, even with a large power advantage. That alone spelled their understanding that respect and caution would be needed to compete, let alone win. They planned to win the war by playing a game of attrition. A land control battle, that would be won by having the most resources, and the largest army. This would lead to open field combat and opportunity, in which the best Team would come out victorious. The first few days of this war, the decision was made to let RF play their land control games. Rages, then caught Blood Pholic slipping and locked him down, attacking him with 2 other members of GOO. Kudos to her, it was her plan not mine.
Once again utilizing the relocation plan that saved them before, Pholic relocated to save his army, and RF massed on his base. This time, RF closer to our hive, and had less forces available to support. We amassed more than double their force, which led RF to flee, and abandon Pholic. Pholic attempted to hit Rage's back OP and so myself and Alea killed him matching eta. Ironman also lost his army, due to inactivity, in the conquering of Pholic.
This marked the second loss of RF armies, and the first conquering. Blood promptly retired.

Phase 3
RF still maintained a power advantage, due largely to boosting, and they used this advantage by moving in 2-3 man cells to capture land. These cells, even though only 2 manned at times, often held at least 100 ships, usually more. Rages and Raging were assigned to the north side, and often had to play cat and mouse with their much larger force. I noted that even though our units had retreated off an OP, they would still continue with the attack until the forces had successfully landed. On one of their Recons of our area, in which we had seized the upper part of the island that ETME used to control, a 4 man cell came in composed of Patton, Papi, Colin and Iris. After taking a big amount of land, they split into their usual 2 man cells with colin n iris taking the south side.

Iris, put simply, is inactive. We massed on their two-man cell, killing iris and causing colin to flee. Iris was the world's largest army at the time of this death.

Most likely before this, but i'm just noting it now, as Iris was the biggest death to come back in this format. RF had begun switching to heavy anti inf armies, for those who had died. STRICTLY anti inf. Mental note, taken.

Maybe attempting to save their hopes of winning the era, RF attempted to rally and attack once again. I was not involved in the planning or the attack of this so I am unclear as to what happened, but more armies of RF, 3 to be exact, ultimately died. (Including Iris for a second time).

Phase 4
With Moral sinking in RF ranks, and leadership flailing, Ironman was removed from leadership and Patton took command. He then gave the order for RF to make an active effort to push us back, which fell in deaf ears apparently as most of the members did not come. Papi and Patton moved around taking OPs as a two-man cell, in the north. Rages, and Raging played a back and forth with them for 3 days while I observed their tactics, and playing Land seizure in the south along with Stone, resulting in us taking about 1/3 of the map that was maintained in a back-and-forth relationship, from this point forward. Once the south was comfortably held, focus then fell on Patton's cell. After noting previously at the beginning of phase 3, they rarely retreat on attacks, instead trusting their massing of force to defeat us. Using this to our advantage, AverageNoJoe camped out a small portion of his force in the north to help with OP seizure, while having the other half in the south. After sniffing out the northern part of ANJ's forces. The Patton/Papi cell launched. We had a spy on the OP, and this time (which was essentially, due to RF's willingness to relocate to save armies) the OP belonged to us. ANJ moved his units, while the rest of us set for delay toward the OP he was on (faster movement time) and waited for the RF forces to get closer. End of tick before they landed, we locked down, and the trap was successful. Patton and Papi were now outgunned and flanked by upwards of 200 ships. Understanding it would be a rout, Papi disbanded his entire army of almost 60 ships, leaving patton to die alone. Due to their crappy Damage/Armour build and the massing of our forces, Patton's 50+ ship army died and killed less than 4 ships of armour.

At this time, the only RF armies that had not died belonged to Colin, and Kronic Death. All the others died atleast once, and began to be replaced by anti inf heavy armies. Kronic reported that he disbanded his army over time and rebuilt as anti inf army as well. Noted

I will denote this as the time were I gave the order to start making Anti heavy cav armies, BUT we did not bring any cav to the field. instead we kept them in hive and hidden.

Phase 5
A bunch of small skirmishes occured. More RF losses, blah blah. RF began to get tired of the losses, and started kicking every member we killed, replacing them with members from their numerous subs.

We then understood, this would not be a war that could be won without help from another alliance. Soon after, RF1 became VE and freed itself from RF, due to RF asking them to attack as and get slaughtered again. We saw this as the help we needed. In order to win the war, the piece of land I found most vital was the middle island, as it would allow access to all four corners of the map, with limited mana usage. And dragon capabilities closer to RF's hive. We moved to secure this area, with a small team of 4. RF seemed to understand this as well, as they moved in to counter with a team of 8. We cat and moused for acouple days, until their previously noted time of inactivity began to creep up. At that time, we picked off armies once again, killing Iris for a third time (getting him kicked in the process) as well as Pride and afew others. Still we were unable to ever bring in more than maybe 200 ships, due to only having portioned forces at the front.

Maybe feeling the pressures of being outclassed by another alliance, RF offered a truce, which was largely ignored, as we knew we had them against the ropes, even if we were playing mouse.

RF was undeterred by this, and continued to try to push us back. At around day 4 of the cat and mouse, the call was made to end the games and bring in our full armies. we amassed a 280+ attack to hit a 100 ship portion of their army that we believed to be inactive. Believing most of our attack to be spam (and i'm assuming they noted that we were incapable of such forces just days earlier) Kronic death and 2 others supported, resulting in a 8 member vs. 6 member battle, in which our large amount of anti heavy cav, proved to be the difference.

This was the final battle of the war. RF boosted back to near strength, and while we fully had the ability to push. Kapp and I made the decision to leave the assault to VE, who we had convinced to attack RF. 1 day before their planned attack, SEXY (formerly ETME) attacked and killed VE. Now, if you have noticed, not once have I mention SEXY as a joint ally in our assaults, as they proved largely without usefulness, other than at spamming once we had killed armies in the area. So, we had an supposed-ally, killing our only ally willing to fight WITH us, and really didn't feel the need to continue to their hive ourselves.

Phase 6
RF again approached with the truce, and this time it was accepted. In the truce, it was detailed that DoA was to be killed by RF with our help, and that SEXY would be killed for spoiling the era and being so utterly fail, all era. Once agreed upon, DoA randomly gave relics to RF.... convenient to say the least, but no matter. We obviously had no further plans to kill DoA, as RF obviously just wanted no parts of us, and had to talk their way into a win.
We killed SEXY ourselves, for the principal of their actions.
Now we just wait for the era to end. Other things were agreed upon by RF, but I cant reveal them until era's end.

This is the full truth, as best told by
The Supreme Overlord of Destruction and Chaos Ghengis Khan/ Julius MF Caesar.
-Former WWs member (3 eras), during their run of 5 straight championships
-Old-time GOO member
-OC Battledawn player
-Founder of Empires alliances
-Minister of War

The former WWs is to show, I am saying all of this with complete respect for Patton (Luvformypits) as my former leader, and Kronic Death (evilnitrious) as the co-leader of WWs and one of my closest BD friends. This was a very fun war, in which I took the opportunity to showcase my talents as M.o.W against two player who I have known for quite awhile. Due to the activity of my alliance, and the willingness of my leader Kapp to allow me to take control during times of battle, we emerged victorious (victory for us, was killing them). For that, I thank him and my team. Kapp is truly an amazing leader, and one of the few BD players I hold in regard as my equal. Few alliances' leaders have the ego to allow someone else to run battle sets, and take orders as the leader, so I can see him as a very special type of person. All of GOO is lucky to serve with him.
Alea, the most willing member of GOO by far and a very aggressive fighter. She was my battle buddy for most of the wars.
ANJ, my best friend and confidant in times of war, without him a lot of my plans would not work, as he shares my lengthy ability to remain active during all times of day.
Stomach Flu, the former M.o.W of GOO, I commend him for allowing me to do my job, and also for all input he gave.
Rages,..... GAWD, did she have her moments....
Raging, I commend him for holding down the north with Rages, basically in a 2 man cell against a much larger force.
Road Rage, the most awesome guy in the alliance, other than those who are more awesome.....
Stone, an originally Gooey to the core, and very dependable member of the crew.
Special thanks to Major Kron, Pataya and kaballo, who played the role interchange parts during the era, as members of GOO.

Thank you all for a truly great era.

I say this, as this was my last era. My shot into the wind, and the final act before my retirement. It was an honor to have such a great opponent to truly sharpen my skills on, in my final go-round as a M.o.W. I will now be prepping to go on to my irl job as a second lieutenant in the United States Army. I will miss you all. Toots

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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:23 am 
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Also.... I'm gonna take the time to denote my record
8 Championships
2 as leader
3 more second place finishes

Number 1 player in the world 3 times
Top 10, more times than I can remember

Alliances I've helped win- GOO, WWs, GanG, xMx, Empires, LBW

Undefeated in open field wars, as MoW.

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POB twice, TURK, MOD, TLA, Poke

Thank you all BD, hope you enjoyed my greatness and presence. My showings will now come to an end

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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 4:17 am 
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so sad we dont have unlimited ticks

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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:04 am 
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Understanding it would be a rout, Papi disbanded his entire army of almost 60 ships, leaving patton to die alone. Due to their crappy Damage/Armour build and the massing of our forces, Patton's 50+ ship army died and killed less than 4 ships of armour.


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thats a non truth just like most of the crap you spewed.
As far as the truce with us goes The leader of RF (me) only agreed to stop fighting. Not for fear of GOO or you or any other army you put up or out there.
It was time for real life to take over and I didn't have the time to put into it that is required.
I don't know what you and kronic agreed to but be assured i only agreed to stop fighting.


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 Post subject: Re: RF v GOO war
PostPosted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 1:29 am 
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luvformypit wrote:
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Understanding it would be a rout, Papi disbanded his entire army of almost 60 ships, leaving patton to die alone. Due to their crappy Damage/Armour build and the massing of our forces, Patton's 50+ ship army died and killed less than 4 ships of armour.


http://gyazo.com/25d2cbef2bb2ecd6f5284e54f7c36bb9


thats a non truth just like most of the crap you spewed.
As far as the truce with us goes The leader of RF (me) only agreed to stop fighting. Not for fear of GOO or you or any other army you put up or out there.
It was time for real life to take over and I didn't have the time to put into it that is required.
I don't know what you and kronic agreed to but be assured i only agreed to stop fighting.


quite the bit of quoting to be done here.

Alright, pit, this just shows that you talk before thinking. 4 armoured squads of infantry make 120 units, 30x4, 30-60-90-120. In that Battle Report, there are only 106 infantry losses. I believe our statement stands proven that we took less than 4 armoured squads worth of damage.


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