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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:09 am 
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Stop trying to justify the fact you back stabbed; especially with the horse crap lies you keep spewing out. This is what it is; a back stab, anyone with half a brain and not in denial can see that.

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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
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Stop trying to justify the fact you back stabbed; especially with the horse crap lies you keep spewing out. This is what it is; a back stab, anyone with half a brain and not in denial can see that.

Good bye.

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stirring up lies to make allies betray eachother=backstabbing

blue=backstabbers, anyone with half a brain and not in denial can see that

funny how blue can keep coming up with accusations but cant come up with any evidence to back up their claims though

screenshots from sick war? how about tit war? dont give us the screens of you defending while offline that doesnt count for *CENSORED*...oh right, after that you got nothing, other then being outplayed by eco1

BLUE=unruly NOMY1

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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:10 am 
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your all bad loser's. Go ask ECO who they think should win and 95% of the rest of BD!!


Yeah. I'm totally a bad loser.
I'm accepting this defeat. We got outplayed. There was nothing we could do as honorable players. We made a large mistake of trusting you and we paid the price of it.
I'd just like to point out something, however.
You guys have shown nothing but disrespect for us through the entire era, and even attacked us a couple of times throughout it (I've had multiple mines/OPs taken by NOMY -.-). But when you finally get the win you deserve, you can't even face the fact that you went against your word of being brother alliances for the entire era and backstabbed us? There were many people I used to respect in ECO/NOMY, hell, I'd still respect them if they had the balls to admit they actually backstabbed, but siding up with the bigger of 2 alliances just so you can get the win, then turning on your so called brother alliance without even admitting what your doing?
Pathetic is the only word I can think of.

Oh. And don't give me this "We gave you 7 days warning" crap. The simple fact is that you waited until you had the position to beat us in a war and just turned around on us. It doesn't matter how long you give us, the fact that you turned around on the whole era brother alliance thing at all is a backstab.



You guys have never been brother alliances to us. you let NOMY do the work while you killed small alliances and SUBs. you took the easy option every time. you only ever accepted 1st as an option for ILYS nothing else. We where a means to an end for you and as such you where USING us. Tell me exactly how that is being brother alliance to us because all I see is a selfish bunch of guys who are angry that 1st was not gifted to them over a deserving alliance because you all have some inflated sense of self worth.

even after all the crap with ECO.... the attempts to get alliances to attack us........ the obvious building against us and alexs manipulation of events even after all that I was prepared to give you guys 3rd but that was not good enough. you wanted us to give you the era after all that.

ILYS you need to wake up to yourselves! You may be experienced players but you don't get something for nothing I am telling you now if you sacrificed for the coalition and if you guys deserved 1ST you guys would have it. But you don't that's bottom line!!! You don't deserve the win but rather then take what you do deserve (3rd) you insist on denying the rightful team the win!

I have had it you can talk that we did not honour our alliances together. well

1. you create issues with ECO my team who you know from tick one I am with and attempt to weaken my and their friendship!

2. you attempt to get other alliances to betray NOMY

3. you do not get actively involved in any real battle all ERA and choose to sit back and watch as NOMY fight

4. you never intended to allow NOMY the win if they had earned deservingly.

so basically all this adds up and it is clear. we where puppets to you and not a brother alliance and really all your upset about is we have p[lay a hell of a lot better then you all.

next time you might actually try playing instead of getting other alliances to do it all for you!


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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:08 am 
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Mm.

Definition of Backstab: Betrayal, especially by a false friend.

What exactly did we do to be called backstabbers? Not hand over the relics? Lose your temper? Decided to end the round by betraying a friend (or false, should I say)? Thats right, backstab. You constantly say you did more than us and we deserve third place, yet, we've been rank 1 for 9/10th's of the era, and can you please tell what ECO have done to deserve such praise, besides actually stayin under your protection and allowing them to build for over 1200 ticks.

You say its not a backstab, but a mere ending of the era? Yeah, right. Then explain this, something that happened much earlier in the era:

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Oh and this before the backstab actually happened, mates. We said nothing, the first sign of a backstab.

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[04/28/12] Langy: no hard feelings man and i hope it doesnt ruin any friendships

Bull, Langy. If even had the thought of no hard feelings and not ruining friendships, then you wouldn't have done this in the first place. Before this round I thought of you as a honorable as friends of mine spoke so highly of you. Guess you didn't intend to show that honor to your friends eh? Same goes to you Staff.

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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:39 am 
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Mm.

Definition of Backstab: Betrayal, especially by a false friend.

What exactly did we do to be called backstabbers? Not hand over the relics? Lose your temper? Decided to end the round by betraying a friend (or false, should I say)? Thats right, backstab. You constantly say you did more than us and we deserve third place, yet, we've been rank 1 for 9/10th's of the era, and can you please tell what ECO have done to deserve such praise, besides actually stayin under your protection and allowing them to build for over 1200 ticks.

You say its not a backstab, but a mere ending of the era? Yeah, right. Then explain this, something that happened much earlier in the era:

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Oh and this before the backstab actually happened, mates. We said nothing, the first sign of a backstab.

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[04/28/12] Langy: no hard feelings man and i hope it doesnt ruin any friendships

Bull, Langy. If even had the thought of no hard feelings and not ruining friendships, then you wouldn't have done this in the first place. Before this round I thought of you as a honorable as friends of mine spoke so highly of you. Guess you didn't intend to show that honor to your friends eh? Same goes to you Staff.

Good day.



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good job posting 2 snipe links...lol


eco>>kills then BLUE throughout ENTIRE era, NEVER passed by blue EVER in terms of kills

blue: first place by default because they were the ones who werent fighting anywhere, not eco or nomy, had economy fought blue start of the era blue would have been destroyed despite alex's wallet, holding 1st place doesn't by any means mean you deserve it
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Definition of Backstab: Betrayal, especially by a false friend.
*s=regards blue
Definition(s) of Betrayal:

verb
***1.to deliver or expose to an enemy by treachery or disloyalty
******Definition(s) of disloyalty
--------***1.the quality of being disloyal; lack of loyalty; unfaithfulness.
------------***see#2
--------***2.violation of allegiance or duty, as to a government.
------------*** as a supposed brother alliance it was blues DUTY to fight against the enemies of gold equally with gold, it was also their DUTY to support WHICHEVER alliance was in first to take first,hence when it was clear NOMY would win it was THEIR DUTY to allow this. blue did NONE of these things...(BACKSTAB X 3)
--------***3.a disloyal act.
------------***see #2

***2.to be unfaithful in guarding, maintaining, or fulfilling: to betray a trust.
-------***by asking allies to war against their supposed BROTHER ALLIANCE they have betrayed trust(BACKSTAB#4)
***3.to disappoint the hopes or expectations of; be disloyal to: to betray one's friends.
--------***blue failed completely to meet the expectations and were disloyal to their brother alliance(BACKSTAB#5)
4.to reveal or disclose in violation of confidence: to betray a secret.

5.to reveal unconsciously (something one would preferably conceal)
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What exactly did we do to be called backstabbers?
Not hand over the relics?
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message economy allies and ask them to help attack us?
leave economy to fight ALL battles for them until they are all but over?
threaten economy?
try to tear a rift between allies to make them fight eachother?
build troops specifically to kill economy while stalling era out?
build up for 1700 ticks but do nothing with army other then kill subs and mooch of kills and even fail at that?

i suppose next blue will say none of this happened despite screenshots, i suppose they will also now argue against a dictionary...


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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:17 am 
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Mm.

Definition of Backstab: Betrayal, especially by a false friend.

What exactly did we do to be called backstabbers? Not hand over the relics? Lose your temper? Decided to end the round by betraying a friend (or false, should I say)? Thats right, backstab. You constantly say you did more than us and we deserve third place, yet, we've been rank 1 for 9/10th's of the era, and can you please tell what ECO have done to deserve such praise, besides actually stayin under your protection and allowing them to build for over 1200 ticks.

You say its not a backstab, but a mere ending of the era? Yeah, right. Then explain this, something that happened much earlier in the era:

Spoiler:
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Oh and this before the backstab actually happened, mates. We said nothing, the first sign of a backstab.

Spoiler:
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[04/28/12] Langy: no hard feelings man and i hope it doesnt ruin any friendships

Bull, Langy. If even had the thought of no hard feelings and not ruining friendships, then you wouldn't have done this in the first place. Before this round I thought of you as a honorable as friends of mine spoke so highly of you. Guess you didn't intend to show that honor to your friends eh? Same goes to you Staff.

Good day.



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eco>>kills then BLUE throughout ENTIRE era, NEVER passed by blue EVER in terms of kills

blue: first place by default because they were the ones who werent fighting anywhere, not eco or nomy, had economy fought blue start of the era blue would have been destroyed despite alex's wallet, holding 1st place doesn't by any means mean you deserve it

Definition of Backstab: Betrayal, especially by a false friend.

What exactly did we do to be called backstabbers?
Not hand over the relics?
add ons:
message economy allies and ask them to help attack us?
leave economy to fight ALL battles for them until they are all but over?
threaten economy?
try to tear a rift between allies to make them fight eachother?
build troops specifically to kill economy while stalling era out?
build up for 1700 ticks but do nothing with army other then kill subs and mooch of kills and even fail at that?



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Well well, I had promised myself not to respond to this topic, as the Eco/Gold empires are massive in size and will most likely take anything I say and pull it apart, but since even logs aren't safe any more, I guess i'll have to say a few things.


First of all - If you felt we were poor allies - You could have said that during the round. At any point, you could have went at me and said "Hey, Alex, I would like to break the coalition... This isn't working for us. You OK with it?". You didn't.


Instead you waited until nobody was left to put up a fight, we were weaker and killed 7 armies before talking of a "peaceful solution" :roll:.

Second of all, switching to Ranged AVI is backstabbing? Lolwat?


By those logics, you've backstabbed us all era for building ATV. What a load of bullocks. When it was apparent all Tank/Inf alliances were dead - we switched to pure AVI because everyone used Vehicles.

Expecting us not to, is like expecting a standing army to use bows and arrows until someone with a machine gun declares war. :roll:




Third of all, I guess I will have to defend my own reputation here. Awesome.

The first screenshot - very nice. Did you include the fact i've actually given VB the chat logs that made me think that and advised him to just keep 1-2 players at home and continue attacking with us?

Oh wait... That was conveniently left out.

Or the fact I warned Staffy the second I thought it?
Oh wait...

Or the fact I have actually told UstaZ I thought it at first and he explained while the Titans used to be allies, their loyalty no longer lies with them?

Oh wait...



Second, I said "almost" quit. Staffy warned me Peter trusted AT00 a lot and would be pretty effed up by it and Peter was pretty down over AT00 being a possible backstabber from what I heard. I did not say he would quit nor that he said he would quit - I perhaps should have worded it better. I don't really see the relevance, but I guess I am just *CENSORED*.


And the last one... We were there fighting, were we not? At first Gold had a NAP with SiCK and we were making one... SiCK broke the NAP and we supported Gold in it. I don't really see how on earth that can be seen as us being unfaithful. Ask CMS, he was willing to NAP me until the very end.


Now, I could throw some dirt up myself (Xe asking me if we'd war, Ceja giving me nice logs of Langy saying he wants to kill AB to prevent us from using them against Gold or the endless amount of brainwashing that we were against you guys to your members) but I don't really feel the need. I think it's childish.

Oh and Mr S asked to join us 3 times during the era, he asked Gold too. I didn't use it to take him - I warned Peter. I made it abundantly clear I hate him for wanting to do that. But yeah, that makes me a huge backstabber. A real ally would recruit him and get a certain #1. :lol:


My god I love this guys, please do continue the hating and mudfest, if it helps you sleep at night... Have fun you!



Oh and as for the endless accusations of putting people against each other during the era...
http://gyazo.com/0052802a79a711b538261afc483d241b

Except Mr S asking me to join once again (and I already made clear i'd just kick and conquer them) good luck finding me even one case of an outbox message rallying anyone against you.



Daniel, Glenn, I am truly disappointed in you guys. As a former friend, a former ally and a battle dawn Leader. Have a nice life.

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PS: I will not respond again, further attempts of putting things I say out of context... Just take it with a grain of salt. PM me on skype if anyone is interested in knowing the salt. :P I see some of my members decided to respond against my advise, I advise them to remain calm and not let this hurt them to much. We had fun, we played well, we did what we could. I am sorry for failing you guys, you told me this would happen, I refused to do a preemptive strike. :( it's why I don't make permanent allies, they tend to like stabbing and I am to much of of a n00b to break my word.

Sorry my friends, this wasn't my type of leading and I failed in my attempt. I should have handed the leadership staff to someone willing to backstab, but didn't.


Anyhow, you're free to post any and all of our internal logs in public. I am confident there's not one reference to a planned backstab in there.

Fact is, I have never in my career backstabbed or supported a backstab, unlike certain others posting here and have always had my arms open to support anyone who does get cheated out of their rightful place by such means. Fact is, I know how much my members did and I am proud on most of them. I love you guys, i'd have 8/10 of this alliance back any era any world.


Have fun with the flamewars fella's!

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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:41 am 
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Thought i might shed some light on Langy's, Staffy's and Appleseed's characters

viewtopic.php?f=262&t=13766

Bottom of page 1 starting with Gino's post (2nd to last one) and continues for a few pages until it just gets to nothing but smack talk. Either way, theirs undeniable proof from appleseed sending me a pm saying they account shared, and them even admitting it right in the forums. (Sidenote: Victor Stone of the relishes was Staffy, Defdnooblz was Appleseed, and Langy wasn't banned or even convicted as far as i can remember)

DISCLAIMER: Can't say they account shared this round, but they have in the past and considering they have most of the same players, possibly did this era as well. Just giving some insight on ECO/NOMY's characters. I haven't paid attention to the era just saw this thread and decided to snoop around so idk if they did account share or cheat in any way. If they did, Again? seriously? if they managed win (is it in doubt at this point?) without cheating, well then good for them! its about time and i look forward to fighting them myself again!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:41 am 
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CodeoftheSith wrote:
Thought i might shed some light on Langy's, Staffy's and Appleseed's characters

viewtopic.php?f=262&t=13766

Bottom of page 1 starting with Gino's post (2nd to last one) and continues for a few pages until it just gets to nothing but smack talk. Either way, theirs undeniable proof from appleseed sending me a pm saying they account shared, and them even admitting it right in the forums. (Sidenote: Victor Stone of the relishes was Staffy, Defdnooblz was Appleseed, and Langy wasn't banned or even convicted as far as i can remember)

DISCLAIMER: Can't say they account shared this round, but they have in the past and considering they have most of the same players, possibly did this era as well. Just giving some insight on ECO/NOMY's characters. I haven't paid attention to the era just saw this thread and decided to snoop around so idk if they did account share or cheat in any way. If they did, Again? seriously? if they managed win (is it in doubt at this point?) without cheating, well then good for them! its about time and i look forward to fighting them myself again!

there are only 3 original TLA players left.....so good luck with your claims :lol:
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alex-you guys never fought

give me some BRs NOT ON SUBS or SUICIDE ATTACKS after war was already over, prove me wrong with even 50 squad kills and i will agree that blue managed to contribute half as much as eco1 all era(granted 3-4x the firepower)

pretty sure they did this with different wording:
First of all - If you felt we were poor allies - You could have said that during the round. At any point, you could have went at me and said "Hey, Alex, I would like to break the coalition... This isn't working for us. You OK with it?". You didn't.

you guys would never have stood a chance against eco or nomy on their own even if we didnt kill your armies/take your network from the start, it just would have taken several times longer

btw who was it who had 100+ ships waiting on both gold and eco hive doorsteps DURING tit war?did most of it by gating so it wouldnt be seen? *cough*BACKSTAB*cough*

the peaceful solution was on the table a week prior dont give that *CENSORED*

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 Post subject: Re: ECO/NOMY vs ILYS
PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:48 am 
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CodeoftheSith wrote:
Thought i might shed some light on Langy's, Staffy's and Appleseed's characters

viewtopic.php?f=262&t=13766

Bottom of page 1 starting with Gino's post (2nd to last one) and continues for a few pages until it just gets to nothing but smack talk. Either way, theirs undeniable proof from appleseed sending me a pm saying they account shared, and them even admitting it right in the forums. (Sidenote: Victor Stone of the relishes was Staffy, Defdnooblz was Appleseed, and Langy wasn't banned or even convicted as far as i can remember)

DISCLAIMER: Can't say they account shared this round, but they have in the past and considering they have most of the same players, possibly did this era as well. Just giving some insight on ECO/NOMY's characters. I haven't paid attention to the era just saw this thread and decided to snoop around so idk if they did account share or cheat in any way. If they did, Again? seriously? if they managed win (is it in doubt at this point?) without cheating, well then good for them! its about time and i look forward to fighting them myself again!

there are only 3 original TLA players left.....so good luck with your claims :lol:
(troll)

alex-you guys never fought

give me some BRs NOT ON SUBS or SUICIDE ATTACKS after war was already over, prove me wrong with even 50 kills and i will agree that blue managed to contribute half as much as eco1 all era(granted 3-4x the firepower)

pretty sure they did this with different wording:
First of all - If you felt we were poor allies - You could have said that during the round. At any point, you could have went at me and said "Hey, Alex, I would like to break the coalition... This isn't working for us. You OK with it?". You didn't.

you guys would never have stood a chance against eco or nomy on their own even if we didnt kill your armies/take your network from the start, it just would have taken several times longer

btw who was it who had 100+ ships waiting on both gold and eco hive doorsteps DURING tit war?did most of it by gating so it wouldnt be seen? *cough*BACKSTAB*cough*

the peaceful solution was on the table a week prior dont give that *CENSORED*

Ok, I know I said I wouldn't post again but this guy ^ :lol:

We easily could have wiped ECO and NOMY clean for about 1k ticks. No chance, you guys would have been destroyed. And don't deny it, eveyone that was there could see it. And 100+ ships, try 55, and it was to go after AT00 relic if you must know, before we learned ECO was butt buddy's with them.

And weird, talk with ECO1 again. I spoke with the leader the whole time. They helped push the TIT sub off that island on the north. Me and 1 other member (of BLUE)wiped out all TIT sub members that we easily could have let kill ECO1 and blitz you guy. Congrats, you killed the 500 inf on that op. I took out 400 tanks the day prior, of the main. (I'll post BR's so this guys will shut up) And Staffy knows this too.

Again, we had no backstab planned. Those ships where there due to no E or lumber to convert to move. They were meant for AT00 before ECO was all like "OH NOEZ! I LOVE AT00, DON"T ATTACK OR WE'LL RAGE!!!!"

Anyway, now i'm done.

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