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 Post subject: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:14 pm 
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Well wel well,
How low can an alliance go? Seriously, ZF backstabbs us while we are fighting against three top alliances. ZF is overloading in power by a long shot and they couldn't wait untill we can at least put up a fight. We have been NOTHING but poliet and nice to ZF this era. Relocating away from them to allow everyone to grow. We gave them a NAP for longer and they backstabb us in a middle of a war. The big three and us have basically annihlated each other. About 1/4 of CAE is conquered adn the rest have relocated. They act like I am a bad guy, people misjudge me all the time because I play with heart. Here is Tamino (The real leader) of ZF's message to me.
Things you've done that go against your code of honor:Take the JFF relic from under XIRX's nose when they were killing JFFRecruit subs from the enemies of others, ordering them to stop attacksStealing members from other alliances, during wartimeKicking and conquering players who leave for "personal reasons"Recruiting subs like M3 who attack usYou've been nice and polite, but we're doing what we have to just as you have been doing all era.Good luck
The JFF relic- They were our brothers/best ally. They were involed in a war so we stepped in and helped. Thats a good thing. Not breaking our code of honor
Recruit Sub Memebrs- We offered an single player out of the war. Told him he can relocate and we won't attack us. He messaged me a few times in a row begging to join us. I told him he can join sub but not bacstabb
Stealing members?- TBK and CTM members have joined us. TBK is our brother and CTM is our sub. What are you smoking?
-KAC members- THEY ALL QUIT. Did you notice they were our best players? Why would we do that. We kicked Zelda and Zozo because they were very inactive. About 100 ticks a time gone. Thats horrible.
M3 and EXC- Joined our side after CAE tried to have them turn on us (We were allies at the time) and they join our side.
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Now remember.. What tamino said about me trying to recurit sub members. I ahve had 7 people mail me this letter from Tamino to them

HelloM has gone too far. Recruiting players just for rank and then kicking and conquering them when they get killed in their pointless war.ZF is here to put a stop to the nonsense and put F1 back into the state it should be. I don't want to fight with you for something M did, I hope you can consider remaining neutral in this war. We can also move you into the ZF family if you wish to join our cause.




When will F1 ever stop backstabbing poor little M? People who treat us with respect get taht and more back. Ask hawk, ask shot gun, ask people actually view us as people. We are very good friends with a lot of our oppenets. And yet this crap happens all the time.

(In my head I swore between every word, so if you are reading this, just instert a swear word between them, you will understand how I feel)

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:21 pm 
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1 more thing to consider return doesnt kick people when they get killed i have lost my whole army twice and got very low in power but was never kicked unlike many leaders he believes that an alliance should stick 2gether no matter what as long as every1 can play. and honestly thats not something u see very often

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:32 pm 
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That is very true,
People in my allinace have lost their army plently of times. I treat people the way I wanted to be treated. I just try to lead a group of hunger members to a victory. Im not some devil or villian. Stop treating me like one :? bahahah :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:36 pm 
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funny thing is i thought he was kinda 1 til this era when i actualy started talking to him :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:27 pm 
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How low can an alliance go? Seriously, ZF backstabbs us while we are fighting against three top alliances. ZF is overloading in power by a long shot and they couldn't wait untill we can at least put up a fight. We have been NOTHING but poliet and nice to ZF this era.


You've been polite because you wanted to avoid this scenario. This is a war game and being polite is not enough to win, you got involved in a war you were trying to rush through in order to build up and attack us. You have far more allies than ZF alone, and if we let CAE/FD/XIRX fall we would have been outnumbered. You have no trouble fighting against much weaker opponents and it's silly to complain when the reverse happens to you.

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Relocating away from them to allow everyone to grow. We gave them a NAP for longer and they backstabb us in a middle of a war. The big three and us have basically annihlated each other. About 1/4 of CAE is conquered adn the rest have relocated. They act like I am a bad guy, people misjudge me all the time because I play with heart.


Relocating to allow us to grow? That is a load of bull if I ever heard it. You wanted to move to a defensible location, and didn't like our gates eta3 from your colonies (while you thought gates eta3 to our colonies were just fine). You begged us for a NAP extension, even offered us relics to extend the NAP. You can't fight when the odds are against you, and only want to fight each war when you are almost guaranteed a win. This is of course what you're supposed to do, but you are indeed the bad guy and we're just using the same tactics against you.

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Here is Tamino (The real leader) of ZF's message to me.


That is uncalled for, my leader in F1 is fantastic and has final say on everything that happens there.

Let me clean this up for you:

Things you've done that go against your code of honor:
1. Take the JFF relic from under XIRX's nose when they were killing JFF
2. Recruit subs from the enemies of others, ordering them to stop attacks
3. Stealing members from other alliances, during wartime
4. Kicking and conquering players who leave for "personal reasons
5. "Recruiting subs like M3 who attack us

You've been nice and polite, but we're doing what we have to just as you have been doing all era.
Good luck

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The JFF relic- They were our brothers/best ally. They were involed in a war so we stepped in and helped. Thats a good thing. Not breaking our code of honor


JFF started the war and called them brothers in order to join an try to take out an alliance by massively ganging up on them. You even asked us to help you, how is that fair to XIRX? You even tried to poach their best player. Very poor sportsmanship on that one. Then when XIRX was winning you stole the relic from under their nose. Accepting free loot like that makes winning wars almost useless, the winners never get the loot they deserve and it's very frustrating.

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Stealing members?- TBK and CTM members have joined us. TBK is our brother and CTM is our sub. What are you smoking?
-KAC members- THEY ALL QUIT. Did you notice they were our best players? Why would we do that. We kicked Zelda and Zozo because they were very inactive. About 100 ticks a time gone. Thats horrible.
M3 and EXC- Joined our side after CAE tried to have them turn on us (We were allies at the time) and they join our side.


You've been recruiting for pure rank ever since the era started. Monster Hunter being your 1st big get. People from FD, trying to take Alex of Marsgreece. Many many others fall into the same category, your alliance has a revolving door on it from random high power members you find hanging around the map.

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Now remember.. What tamino said about me trying to recurit sub members. I ahve had 7 people mail me this letter from Tamino to them

HelloM has gone too far. Recruiting players just for rank and then kicking and conquering them when they get killed in their pointless war.ZF is here to put a stop to the nonsense and put F1 back into the state it should be. I don't want to fight with you for something M did, I hope you can consider remaining neutral in this war. We can also move you into the ZF family if you wish to join our cause.


Fighting fire with fire, you guys have tons of slave accounts and sleeper colonies around the map spamming us already. Nice sportsmanship.


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When will F1 ever stop backstabbing poor little M?


Poor little M? You've won F1 how many times in a row? You are not poor, just trying to garner every last drop of sympathy from the masses. As the favored winners here you should be used to fighting against big odds, complaining is not becoming of you.

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People who treat us with respect get taht and more back. Ask hawk, ask shot gun, ask people actually view us as people. We are very good friends with a lot of our oppenets. And yet this crap happens all the time.


You did what you had to do to try and win. It won't be enough. Please don't insult our alliance. We couldn't let you gang up with all your absorbed subs against the other free independent teams in F1, and we're stepping in to help them against the criminals that have had control of F1 for far too long.

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:56 am 
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As a complete unbiased opinion, you have been bragging the past week or two about how M has been crushing the top three alliances with little to no effort. Now that you've publicized the wars you were just asking for something bad to happen and that's when ZF came in to the picture. Each alliance has their own strategies and tactics, you simply got bested that's all.

No need to complain or defend your case you did beat the top three alliances even if you lose to ZF that's still a big accomplishment even if you're unable to finish the round as #1.


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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 6:24 am 
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TheReturnOfTheDead wrote:
M3 and EXC- Joined our side after CAE tried to have them turn on us (We were allies at the time) and they join our side.
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Hold up now, I am the diplomatic guy in CAE and never once have I talked to the leaders of M3 or EXC.

I think you used up your sympathy card's already.


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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 7:44 am 
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Kane,
We simply didn't want to be ahead of you guys by a lot in troops or etc. It is about throwin up a fight. How about since we have very little amount of troops and no defense. ZF sat around and waited. I have told everyone that M didn't declare this war. The big three delcared against us. We were sick and tired of chasing them around and gave up a lot of units to finally hit thier hive. JFF and I had a deal since neraly tick 15. It's been all game. I know JFF started the war and they told me so. But I will help them out as I hope for the same treatment. We didn't kick low rank members besides Zelda and Zozo because those two were way to inactive. We lost memebers due to real life issues and fights between members. M nearly broke apart countless times this era. When those players left I had no one to choose from. MonsterHunter begged to join us from tick 65. I had archived. I told him once we got a spot open and he was strong enough we would let him. MonsterHunter played with me two eras before. He knew M was a good team. Alex and I talked for a while before we tried to get him into our team. He hated the orgainzation of XIRX. That is the reason why he joinined. We tried to stop the war before XIRX even took JFF relic. We asked XIRX and JFF if they would each sign an NAP. JFF said yes, XIRX said no. Of crouse we tried to not war you guys. We could of ealier. We discussed it in our allinace chat, but backstabbing wasn't us. We had a dragon field right outside of you. We were ready to war. We had units coming up from the XIRX lands and could of hit you guys unexpectledy. But backstabbing isn't us. I have never backstabbed an allinace inless it was for a very good reason. I mean a very good reason. Kane, just because now seems like the right time when we have a bad defense and no troops doesn't make you seem really strong. Your an allinace that has sat around (Stargey is Stargey, I understand) and waited for us to be very weak. We treid to end the Big three war a few times. But the long war with no action besides a I have always flight safe when talking to him. But when it came to you, I heard multiple times from players in your allinace that you were trying to get ZF to war us way ealier on. I don't respond to players that send me those messages because having a spy in a team backfires. And I didn't tell you about him incase it was true. Its not my thing. CAE member tried to join me, I told leaderofidkwhat about it. I told him M wouldn't take players in like that. You have a differen't picture of me then everyone else has.

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:23 am 
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Rofl!!! Kinda saw this coming didnt i?!
"i told you so!) XD

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 Post subject: Re: M vs ZF (And the Big Three)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:12 pm 
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You made a lot of excuses, but it doesn't explain away what I said.

I heard some of the ways you tried to stop the wars, incredible deals that no one would take... and yet you agreed very quickly to extending your NAP with us? Seemed like you were desperate. All the revolving door policy stuff in your alliance has little to do with the issue, but just hits a bit at the sympathetic honorable guy you are trying to play here.

When you recruited the sub that kept on attacking us and clearly were trying to avoid war with us until you could gather the server on your side, we figured it was time to help the free alliances of F1 against you.

All the single paragraph messages in the world won't fix that.

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