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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:09 pm 
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apollo wrote:
Yes but people who say they are Atheists just to be cool around their friends are not really Athiests. I know a lot of people that say they are Atheist yet ive seen them praying when they thought no1 was around. I even saw one at church. It's odd. People who say they are atheist and brag about it around their friends, are usually posers.


So why would you write "fail" when you know this is true from personal experience?

You know, most people are christian because they were raised that way right?

Why is that valid, but "trendy" isn't valid for atheists?

You apparently know people who claim to be atheists exactly for the number 1 humorous reason I posted. :(

Oh, and just incase you arn't aware let me link you to the "No true scottsman fallacy"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
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Your not getting my point. People who say they are Atheists cuz its trendy.. ARENT ATHEISTS.

And If your raised Atheist then ur raised Atheist. But that was not one of ur points. I was raised without religion. Sure, my parents believe in God, but they never went to church or anything. But now i go to Church every sunday. It isnt always how ur raised.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:24 pm 
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I guess you missed my edit.

Why isn't a person who does things out of peer pressure "Not really" that type of person? If someone claims to be an atheist because it's trendy, why aren't they really atheists?

I said most Christians, not all... There are converts to every idea on this planet, but most people believe the things that the people around them believe. It saves people time and lets them focus on more important things like living life.

There is a difference between doing something because it is trendy, and pretending to blend in.

If everyone around me is doing it, it must be right == trendy


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:31 pm 
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The reason that people arent atheists under peer pressure, is becuase, in most situations, they don't really believe it. A lot of those types on atheists are secretly Catholic, Christian, Protestant etc. They simply say they are in front of their friends so they don't look like "uncool"


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:35 pm 
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Two questions then.

1. Are people who go to church because it's cool, or because their family makes them not really deists?

2. Do you have some device which lets us read people's minds to know WHY they are claiming to be atheists?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 9:37 pm 
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Daganev wrote:
Two questions then.

1. Are people who go to church because it's cool, or because their family makes them not really deists?

first:When did going to church become cool?
and second: If they don't believe in what is being preached, then no, they aren't.


2. Do you have some device which lets us read people's minds to know WHY they are claiming to be atheists?

its called common sense. Try it sometime.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:08 pm 
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Daganev wrote:
I guess you missed my edit.



I said most Christians, not all... There are converts to every idea on this planet, but most people believe the things that the people around them believe. It saves people time and lets them focus on more important things like living life.

This is not a critical comment, just a question. Do you think that what you believe in, whether it is God or no god is less important than other activities.



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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
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Max, did u even write anything?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 11:13 pm 
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apollo wrote:
Max, did u even write anything?


I just did. I don't mind the debate you two are having, but please be respectful of each other so some degree.
I'm just observing and getting answers. What I've gotten so far is that atheists are atheist because of the trend, which you say doesn't make them atheist, or because of being raised atheist.
Why, though, would a Christian convert to atheism?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Are Atheists Atheist?
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Maximillian wrote:
apollo wrote:
Max, did u even write anything?


I just did. I don't mind the debate you two are having, but please be respectful of each other so some degree.
I'm just observing and getting answers. What I've gotten so far is that atheists are atheist because of the trend, which you say doesn't make them atheist, or because of being raised atheist.
Why, though, would a Christian convert to atheism?



A Christian may convert to Atheism because of a personal loss. Like a close relative dying, and they think "If there was a God, He would not let this happen".

Once i again, i stress that this is not my opinion and im a devoit Catholic


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