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Your feedback about the Battle score
Poll ended at Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:26 am
1. I love the new Battle Score - It's great! 48%  48%  [ 235 ]
2. Please remove the Battle Score - it was better without 25%  25%  [ 124 ]
3. I like the idea - however it needs some tweaks (please explain) 27%  27%  [ 133 ]
Total votes : 492
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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 12:58 am 
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hello everoneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :evil:


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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:32 am 
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OmegaXII wrote:
bluepebbles wrote:
thats a good thing cuz if you get screwed and your whole army dies you get score for a good war history i didnt like how you get no score when you loose units
personally the best would be getting rank for victories/losses and kills/deaths as seen in the statistic screen

really? you want score and a higher rank for dying??? this has to be the most *CENSORED* thing ive ever seen since this update even came out

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not loosing just suceeding in killing other players army so noobs that get *CENSORED* all the time dont permanetly stay at rank 1000+[/quote]
the only way your gonna lose your entire army if your a good player is in a big war, other then that, you can lose it by doing extremely stupid stuff[/quote]

plz even good players loose army where you there m3 last era

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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 1:38 am 
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it doesnt promote having a small power just that anyone who had a bad time but really deserves it gets to stay in his place instead of having to start from rank 1000 again thats why i chose yes with tweaks

plus how would you guys feel if you are rank 1 but you get gang banged while you are not logged on and you loose everything would you prefer to stay in top 10-20 or start from rank 1000 like you are a noob could you imagine that

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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:06 am 
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I LOVE THE NEW SCORING SYSTEM!!
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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:22 am 
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can u make for missiles score


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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 3:31 am 
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hi friends

as i believe
there should the new and the old system as killing units we get the score
and even getting relics: d..

;) :)
and even score for launching missles


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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:21 am 
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Milanos wrote:
My opinion might be known already but I'll state it on here as well.

I believe the battle score system is fundamentally flawed and I would much rather see it removed completely to go back to the system where you get score from power, crystals, and relics.

However as it seems we want to tweak it and not get rid of it, here is the fix I propose.

Right now, there is no differentation for range, damage and armor at all. I think this should be fixed first of all. Killing a range unit should give you more score, and people suiciding armor on you should give you less score. Therefore I propose a range kill giving 1 score, a damage kill giving 0.5 score and an armor kill giving 0.2 score. This would give more score for actual wars where range units are killed and would give less score for just killing newbs with armor.

However, I want to see another fix to the system. I believe you should get score from killing anyone, regardless of their power. However as this seems to go against some fundamental "newbie bashing" requirements I propose you get score from anyone you kill that has over 40/50 power, limit to be discussed later. The reason for this is that it is just really annoying, even as a high power player, to have people attacking you or you having to attack them because they keep bothering you and not getting any score when you are actually taking quite some losses from all their range units.

That is my perspective on it, although I would like to reiterate the fact that I would rather see this way of gaining score removed. I believe that the current system of experience, more crystals due to garrisons and gaining territory should be sufficient reasons to fight.

If anyone is wondering why I do not support the 2x power part, it is because I do not think we should discourage gaining power. Disencouraging gaining power does not only discourage for example sustaining your worker count and getting conquers, it also discourages boosting. If you want to gain score it is actually better to rush units sometimes to kill off your workers and to have low power in general as you would otherwise get no (or less, in some suggested cases) score for kills. In my opinion we should not want a system that discourages gaining power, so a system based on getting score relative to your power is in essence flawed to me.

Agrees with this.
And the Power required to get score can be categorized in to tiers based on ticks on a world. Like <100 ticks - all kills gets score, 200-300 ticks- all kills >25 power(enemy's power) gets score and like that..... and something like that. And the score u get from this should be based on more of the amount of soldiers engaged in that battle. I like the way different type(range armor dmg) gets different score for killing.

Also, the score system can be abused in many ways, so better let it go. We get enough XP for killing units itself. ;)

ps : only read first page of thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:29 am 
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I like the idea of battle score system
but their r 5 problems
1.we should get different score range,damage and armour
2.if a person loose more than he killed, his battle score should be deducted
this way a person can loose and get battle score
3.its that their is no coloum of battle score in community tollbar
get it as soon as possible
4.we should get score by killing admin units too as it is still a kill
5.that half power system should be removed
because ones we start getting different score for damage,armour and range then their is no need for this half scores
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 Post subject: Re: Battle Score - your feedback
PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:41 am 
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well ... those guys who have power lvl 30-50 are the most anoyying rebuilding there untill they get 7 squads anti ur chasis and atack you when you units are in war... we should get score from all players no matter if its lvl 20 pwr or 200 were all equally in the game. its not like goood players get favoured..then why should low lvl powerd guys get favoured?


Very true, but then you have the argument of newbie abuse. If there is no power limit then people will keep attacking the newbies giving them no chance to build up at all.

Which is why I think there is no good fix for this problem and it would make much more sense to remove it.

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Also, the score system can be abused in many ways, so better let it go. We get enough XP for killing units itself. ;)


Agreed.

The thing just is, we keep thinking of fixes, every fix has its own problem again and can still be abused, when we had a system that was working much better before. I don't see why you would want to go with a system that performs worse than the system before it.

Also, I know this thread is about the score system, but I would like to say the above is true for many of the "fixes" that have been done. I love you Michael, you're a great guy, and you sometimes have great ideas, but many of the changes and fixes have made the game less fun and have never been changed back into what they were before.

I'm fine with doing changes, just think it through better.. I think we could see beforehand that this was going to fail.

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[25-10-2012 14:06:44] Milan: Okay.. Then sorry but I still think it can be abused. Someone could just keep low power and massive score by killing off multies/friends/noobs
[25-10-2012 14:07:45] Milan: Get 60 range, kill 60 armor every few ticks = 60 score every few ticks. Don't need more army, you can just keep doing that.
[25-10-2012 14:10:16] Milan: I'm just saying if this was implemented, I'd get an alliance and keep 1 guy with low power who would just have only 4 squads, almost 0 workers, and let him kill all the noobs around.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:53 am 
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Personally, I like the look of this new system but it has a lot of issues; primarily its not very easy to get the hang of as there doesn't appear to be a logical ratio that can be followed by a player without having to read up on it.

The gaining of score from battle is a good concept. It encourages the purpose of the game while allowing players, such as myself and a number of my alliance (MSRT E2), who do not boost too push for ground in combat early on. However, it has also pushed us back as we cannot seem to grasp the detail of the scoring to help reclaim our regular position.

With a bit of tweaking, a clear ratio; or at the very least a more clear message of the score gained; then the system could work.

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