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aister · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:10 pm

ofc, when there are no way to lose all ur battle score, there will be ways to abuse it. Which is why I asked for a tweak for that as well...

but, at least it's not as annoying as it was...

bluepebbles · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:32 pm

OmegaXII wrote:

i dont think it should be completely removed, just taken out and tweaked until it is more fit for the game and has less flaws, its a good idea though to stop people from just sitting and doing nothing but building up an army (like me) ive managed to get top 50 by just doing that, no attacking at all

i havent played against you but ive seen you play, you do like to do a lot of killing :p

yes not taken complete;y out its a good idea that needs to be improved like score for battle statistics i mean im on e3 and im seeing all these top 100 rank people and they have lost 30 to their 10 victories and have killed 200 to the 500 they have lost score should be based on overall kills to deaths and victories to losses

darathmurrough · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:40 pm

losses count the losses of your allies also if you team attack, that would be unreliable ;}~

aviturg · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 4:41 pm

the thing is... it is not just a small feature of the game. it's the scoring system FFS.
you can't just change it every week you know... when changed in the middle of an era, it can ruin the whole era for people that put a lot of effort and money into it, and it's very unfair. so i would just take it out and test it somewhere else and not bring it back until it is finalized.
all the weaknesses of this system could have been easily spotted if you had this poll BEFORE the change.

as for now, first take it out because it completely (Want to be allies? Sometimes I like to pretend I am a princess riding a pony..) up.

Ruler1997 · **Joined:** Mon Nov 05, 2012 7:48 pm **Posts:** 30

How about its not decided by the total amount of power the player has but how many units they are using in that specific battle.
for example: a rank 30 is getting attacked by a rank 50 ,and the rank 50 is attacking with 30 power worth of units but the rank 30 is defending with 30 worth of power. The rank 50 has 300 total power , but the rank 30 has 100 worth of total power. So with this change , the rank 50 will earn his fair battle score if he wins.

Ilona · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:09 pm

Sorry, Avi but you are wrong

We always put our updates on RC first. This one (the first battlescore system) was there 3 weeks or even longer before it came in here. Everyone is able to create a colony there to see what we'll add on .com next.
Of course our maintenance team got asked first to look out for bugs and abuses and we debugged the problems we saw.
You just can't do a poll before its not implemented. If a change is good or bad in the long run, you'll always see when its anyway to late.

Like you can see with the current result of the poll: This one was good for 50% and bad for the other 50%
I wish, I'd still have my crystal ball

Changing the game mid era was and will be always a problem. Even when its for one server the begin of an era, it will be for all others mid or end era. Changes will be always for all worlds. Its how this game is builded.

I suggested the system to Milan, that he proposed here in this thread with armor, damage and range units and also talked about another system with other players...but both have their flaws too. I don't think we can find a system which will make all happy... we just can try to find a way which make the majority happy

darathmurrough · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:11 pm

when the majority vote and leave with simple comments like " i like this system it stops me being rank 1000 when im killed"??

Ilona · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:12 pm

Ruler1997 wrote:

How about its not decided by the total amount of power the player has but how many units they are using in that specific battle.
for example: a rank 30 is getting attacked by a rank 50 ,and the rank 50 is attacking with 30 power worth of units but the rank 30 is defending with 30 worth of power. The rank 50 has 300 total power , but the rank 30 has 100 worth of total power. So with this change , the rank 50 will earn his fair battle score if he wins.

I wonder what you'd suggest with newbies vs pros. Can you think of any way how the newbies can gain score?

Ilona · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:13 pm

darathmurrough wrote:

when the majority vote and leave with simple comments like " i like this system it stops me being rank 1000 when im killed"??

actually, I see the no and tweak votes as one. Both means that we have to improve the system

aviturg · **Posted:** Sat Dec 15, 2012 5:28 pm

why did you put this change in the first place? it was for 2 main reasons as much as i know:

1. encourage battles - as you saw in e1, it made the complete opposite and it prevented big battles from happening (AI vs PRAE)

2. to not encourage sitting on your asses and doing nothing all era - the new system obviously encourages it BIG TIME

+ it got a lot of other weired and unreasonable situations.

so... why keep it? because someone who was top-10 and lost everything didn't want to drop to #1000 and voted "yes" here?...

be my guest, im way past my active days, the new scoring system suits me fine

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