i actually like this idea where there is a maximum amount of resources for people to gain per tick. however as for the normal income...ive had eras where i make 900 per tick so i dont think normal income should be limited

sorry simmen,

I guess I wasn't communicating effectively.. I wasn't meaning to be off topic with my suggestions but rather to solve your problem in a different way.

Reading the responses to your updates to solve an issue leaves me with a summary that people want to be able to spend money on reds to gain an advantage and there is debate about how much of an advantage is acceptable and to what extent a player can work around cool downs and resource limits... Then there is some discussion about how hard it is to code the software to prevent the "abuse"

What people are saying seems to me to be that at the end of the day it boils down to more people will play if the game is more fun and they feel able to compete without the ability of someone to use money to gain a vast advantage quickly. However, if money doesn't provide a worthwhile advantage the game dies through lack of financial support and again players reduce.

The proposed updates are an attempt to strike a good balance.

My suggestions are an attempt to look at ways to achieve the goals of these proposed updates in a different way and I should have made that clearer. In a nutshell they are to get the top players/alliances to engage each other more.

such a compromise would hopefully keep both the big spenders and those who feel "bought out" of any meaningful competition happy.

This would be penalizing players for paying the game. That's not right. Boosting is extra, and should be looked upon as such, there should never be a negative result to supporting the game.

I understand what your point is but there are several big issues with these suggestions. If you would like any further commentary on these suggestions, I advise you to make a topic solely for these. While I see how you tried to make them relevant, this thread is about the change that will take place.

And to those who are going to try to use my last response as a reason for the actual topic. Let me be perfectly clear. There should not be a negative consequence to boosting and supporting this great game. HOWEVER, just because you drop some change in the bucket you should not get carte blanche. There should be and are limits on the advantage you receive, and the fact that people have been circumventing these restrictions in the past, does not mean people should be continued to be allowed to do so. In fact it just shows that it needs to be corrected.

And one more thing... If this doesn't happen much, and it's not that rampant, and it doesn't give players that big of an advantage. Why are those who have been doing it so upset? And why are there this many of them?

Just saying.

30 power instead of 20 will still drastically reduce the number of crystals in the world. Give some statistics on how many players on average get to 20 power (let's say 80%), and how many get to 30 power (let's say 70%) ... those numbers I just made up, but we could extrapolate that there would be a certain amount of less crystals on the world, meaning we would need to boost production (resource AND workers) from crystals to compensate for this.

Too often when updates are added, side effects are not considered, which further devolves the balance of the game.

The supporter limitations are not my concern, my concern is balance. Many people have many good reasons to dislike the token updates related to this... my concern here is that there are such more pressing concerns to address than when a newbie gets a crystal. Seriously now...

I realize that small steps are good, and that no matter what is added there will be things that can't be addressed all in one update... but the choices of what to address here simply make no sense compared to the probably 50ish things I've suggested to be added that the public would be FAR happier to see than any of these things.

Just something to think about... people need to see the game improving in some measurable way to keep spirits up, and this is not a way to go about that. I'm not going to be sensationalist and say this is the worst update ever, but really? Who cares about 20->30 power for crystals when we could add such simple things that drastically improve the ability for EVERYONE to enjoy the game? I see nothing here that let's people enjoy the game more, or play it more easily... I see a variable change, a rule change, and a new feature being added to combat token use.

It just makes little sense.

CodeoftheSith wrote:

So, 42000+84000=126000 metal, in a single tick


dont think anybody here in battledawn do that.

still 14 good players vs one player.? ( donaters )

he will still losse with his big money.

honestly i see no point on doing this y should there be a limit on how much metal u get in a tick if im makin 1k a tick and decided i want too boost all that cause i need the resources than its up to me.

there is also a time when u need to use other peoples boost mainly because u need the resources. alot of time in wars u need them to convert for energy cause 150 energy boost is nearly not enough. u need to replace armor units that you may have lot or to launch nukes at your enemy. plus you still forget that lots of boosters have 60+ squads so that costs so much oil that there own oil is enough to move them a small amount

Thats not due to my lack of imagination. I can guarantee, there are very few tricks you can pull in war today. You might be articulate in describing tricks but they just translate into simple ingame moves like holding squads at bay, spamming mines and wells to reduce enemy income, faking an attack etc. These are all not extraordinary moves. Ive done it and so has every one else. They are very normal and infact quite dull in my opinion. There should be something more imaginative and innovative that someone can do ingame but today in the name of game balance a lot of things have been restricted. Also I guarantee you that in a round where I spend thousands of dollars, you will NEVER be able to beat me. Of course I do play in really good teams that are always available and play as a team. That will make it harder for you. Play this new server long enough, you will know what I am talking about.



Indeed. There are far more pressing issues at hand, and people are going in circles arguing about token use and a rule change. There is a thread that Kodak posted earlier with lots of inputs and changes made based on those suggestions will be far more welcome than dealing with "token farming" right now.

you have the frist 100 ticks no trade.

if you got 15k metal people cant trade your more.
you can buyed the 30k cap. still if you got 15k metal you cant get more metal traded.

metal mine rank 3 you need to have to fight.
why whould they chance more?

think about it.



none trade frist 100 ticks. hold the mass boosting.
15k metal block. hold the mass boosting. littlebit then.
metal mine rank 3. hold the spammers.


also people say this add the crystal from 20 power to 40 power that will bring 20 % mabye 30% less crystals on earth,mars and fantasy.

that sucks;)

Then they would have to think TACTICAL about which units to move. Thank you for giving us an option on how to fight the trend of the ones with the most squads win!