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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:04 pm 
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Woot Fenix is back. Anyways Obama is coming dangerously close to dictator if you ask me. Personly I never liked him and when I see the faces of those who voted for him now hating him, i just have to laugh

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 7:25 pm 
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if he turns of the internet he wont live for long some people cant live without internet so hes making hes own funeral

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
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mrducky wrote:
besides, failure to do so is merely a fine if you dont comply. hardly the gestapo "we lock you into a prison at an unknown destination and electrocute and waterboard dissenters"


the fine is if companies vital to US telecommunications dont adhere to the security requirements proposed


and for those who worry about losing their internet this would only be used in extreme cases of cyber warfare

ie someone is hacking NORAD or causing havoc with online finance

he going to just turn it off on a whim

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:23 am 
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the obama deception
watch it on youtube it said long ago that obama will shut down the internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw


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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:16 am 
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I'm sorry, but what is this conspiracy bull? it's come up for every president for every country and not once it has been proven truth. This bill isn't half as bad as people seem to think and Obama can't and won't just shut down the internet. It'd be a killer for the US Economy.


It's a measure put in place in case something happens. He could nuke someone, he isn't doing that either. Personally, I am more bothered by that then the internet :roll:


The point is, if he does either of them, he digs his own grave. Nationally and internationally.

It's a defence mechanism put in place for if something ever happens. Saying he's shutting off the internet is like saying everyone who buys a gun is a murderer.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:13 am 
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Yea of course he wont really do it. I dont think he is THAT stupid

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 1:08 am 
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nir79 wrote:
the obama deception
watch it on youtube it said long ago that obama will shut down the internet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw

cause youtube is ALWAYS CORRECT right?
*sarcasm*
im gonna go make a video saying that obama isnt born in USA, he was born on Thrakagol 82, he is a reptilian alien and rather then contribute to discussion, ill merely direct people to that video.

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Woot Fenix is back. Anyways Obama is coming dangerously close to dictator if you ask me.

remind me to never ask you about anything. you clearly dont know what a dictator is.

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
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i dont think he CAN
Plus why would he ? he have a page on FaceBook xD

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
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Praetor Fenix wrote:
I dont think he is THAT stupid

that's debatable

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 Post subject: Re: Obama gets the ability to shutdown the internet.
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:24 pm 
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Im backing you on this one Ducky. The bill in question here is definately dangerous though, and only disagree with the fact that the patriot act is more invasive. My reasoning for this is because that we live in the age of information, which makes it harder for these corrupt corporate entities that are as out in the open now as they have ever been because of the internet! This is the precise reason for wanting to expand executive power to the internet in America, much as it is already done in china (there is ALOT you cannot access from china simply because it is deemed subversive or contradictory to state security).

The language in the bill is dangerously wide open and general in terms of what can be "killed". Using language such as "anything deemed a threat to national security" could really encompass anything that is subversive to American national and foreign policy. Neither of which are we globally revered for at this point in time. This would allow the president to, at will, remove complete websites such as Alex Jones' site "Info Wars" (reference to your "Obama Deception" link above) and anything else associated with it because they attempt to expose corruption and inform the people. This would also allow them to further censor any independent news medium on the net that puts out anything besides the "official" press releases. Lord knows you dont get the full story on CNN or HLN and obviously Fox News. During the day you can literally switch between them and hear the exact same stories from each station. The days of real investigative reporting are long gone outside of the "To Catch A Predator" series xD

Right now, there is more corruption and more to expose than any other time in history. In the public spectrum, this was commonly addressed by labeling people who speak out against public policy in a more public medium such as the internet, as "conspiracy theorists" because people simply dont want to believe it is true. Hell, I for one wish it was all just crap. Now however, people can simply look for themselves because the internet is so wide open.

If you really start paying attention, you start seeing very public figures in public mediums such as C-Span blatantly stating what they want, and it is creepy as all hell!

Example:
Virginia Senator Jay Rockafeller Saying he wishes the internet never existed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ct9xzXUQLuY

One need only look around to see what is going on these days!

Eisenhower saw all of this coming in the 60's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rd8wwMFm ... re=related

He told us it would happen if we turned a blind eye! He warned us to be alert. A few years later, we got Vietnam. Since then it is a common thing for the US to be involved in conflict all over the world. Today, our defense budget is hundreds of percentages above what it was just a decade ago, let alone 40 or 50 years, and we are engaged in a war against an invisible enemy that could be known to reside in several countries around the world! It is happening right now. And the people who are making it happen want it to keep happening and the internet poses a threat to that as the American people are beginning to wake up.

I could go on about this stuff all day. Save to say that if you are an American, you need to do yourself and the constitution which guarantees our freedoms, a favor. Vote independent next election! Guys like Ross Perot and Ron Paul are our last best chance to get things goin back into the direction of the people again and away from corporate special interests who have fully penetrated every level of our government and will do anything in their extensive power to keep it that way.

Besides, wouldn't it just be interesting to see what happens when Ron Paul orders the audit of the Federal Reserve Bank and Fort Knox? Id buy a ticket to that show :D

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