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 Post subject: Re: British Petroleum I Pressume
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 4:42 pm 
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So it really is a joint US/British Problem, and finger pointing and name blaming will continue to go on as long as politics is present ... which means forever and a half.


Arguably so. But the problem is from BP, a multinational company, and on American soil. The cost (financially) is to be paid by BP and the US government. The government of the United Kingdom is not really any more involved than any other government that wants an environment after this finishes :)

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WE ARE however, blaming BP for this unorganized mess and so called 'response.


Absolutely, as is reasonable. Although, some of the blame has to be taken by regulation, too.

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 Post subject: Re: British Petroleum I Pressume
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So it really is a joint US/British Problem, and finger pointing and name blaming will continue to go on as long as politics is present ... which means forever and a half.


Arguably so. But the problem is from BP, a multinational company, and on American soil. The cost (financially) is to be paid by BP and the US government. The government of the United Kingdom is not really any more involved than any other government that wants an environment after this finishes :)


Oh yes, the British Government shouldn't have to pay anything, let alone even be slightly blamed for the mess.

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WE ARE however, blaming BP for this unorganized mess and so called 'response.


Absolutely, as is reasonable. Although, some of the blame has to be taken by regulation, too.


I couldn't have said it better myself. BP has drilled in other areas (Canada/Netherlands/ect.) where regulations are SO strict, for the first year or so of drilling, it isn't even profitable.

But, BP follows ALL regulations and codes over there (safety wells, other lines, etc.)

American regulations are sub par, and it's really because politics and oil corporations are so intertwined that there doesn't need to be regulations because it'll be 'ok' or because they're our 'buddies'*

*see Bush and preBush presidency

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 Post subject: Re: British Petroleum I Pressume
PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:41 pm 
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it is true that the us government is also partly to blame

oil companies lobbying the government got exemptions and looser restrictions and Deepwater Horizon (the well that exploded) got off even lighter because it was deemed unlikely to have a major spill

but if bp had thought safety first we probably wouldn't have a problem but they often completely ignored common sense as well their own engineers and technicians just so they save money

employees knew that they could and often were fired if they brought up safety issues that could delay drilling

bp deserves most of the blame but the us government deserves some to

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 Post subject: Re: British Petroleum I Pressume
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We should blame the inspectors that failed!

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 Post subject: Re: British Petroleum I Pressume
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it wasn't just the inspectors

bp purposely made a series of decisions just before the explosion that greatly increased the chance of failure

the only way the inspectors could have caught them is to inspect every day

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