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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:28 am 
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Ok i didn't read all the long debates u guys had..
but the video was gud with a gud message...
no1 would like a stranger dictating rules in their own house...

I'm not sure if the american presence in the middle east and afghan can be justified or not.. there are lot of controversy theories which i don't give a damn..

but wasn't Taliban created by USA 2 fight the Soviets.. Didn't they supply the arms??
also the reason for attack on IRAQ was given as weapons of mass destruction.. but in the end nothing was found.. Saddam was a bad dictator but again who are we to judge any1 else??

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:53 pm 
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signlord wrote:
Ok i didn't read all the long debates u guys had..
but the video was gud with a gud message...
no1 would like a stranger dictating rules in their own house...

I'm not sure if the american presence in the middle east and afghan can be justified or not.. there are lot of controversy theories which i don't give a damn..

but wasn't Taliban created by USA 2 fight the Soviets.. Didn't they supply the arms??
also the reason for attack on IRAQ was given as weapons of mass destruction.. but in the end nothing was found.. Saddam was a bad dictator but again who are we to judge any1 else??


Also note that we put him in power.

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Also note that we put him in power.


ya.. Saddam was helped to power in his early struggles to counter the soviet influence in Iraq...

America created all those devils during the cold war.. but after the cold war they all turned into Frankestein..

But again the whole situation is confusing.. The 9/11.. Al-Qaeda.. America wants to bring democracy all over the world.. But their way of enforcing democracy is something hard to agree with...

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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:14 pm 
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Jake wrote:
Also note that we put him in power.


ya.. Saddam was helped to power in his early struggles to counter the soviet influence in Iraq...

America created all those devils during the cold war.. but after the cold war they all turned into Frankestein..

But again the whole situation is confusing.. The 9/11.. Al-Qaeda.. America wants to bring democracy all over the world.. But their way of enforcing democracy is something hard to agree with...


Forcing the freedom of choice on people, seems ironic?

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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
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lol that is the problem, forcing freedom doesn't work, which yes, is completely ironic.

They believe the way they live is the best and don't want to change

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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
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Why even bother discussing it? Freedom was just an idea invented by aristocratic and hypocritical slave owners.





Going to get a lot of negative responses for that one :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:05 pm 
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Why even bother discussing it? Freedom was just an idea invented by aristocratic and hypocritical slave owners.

Going to get a lot of negative responses for that one :lol:


1st negative response - too much cynicism??

anyway watever evry1 believes.. here is a quote by Ernest Heingway "The world is a fine place and worth the fighting for..." (For Whom the Bell Tolls )..

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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
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Maybe the world was fine in... oh wait, it never was.



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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
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“What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.” Oscar Wilde

"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin. "
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The world is messed up.. and not man is a gud man.. There was Hitler n Stalin... but didn't we had Lincolns n Gandhis... So it is the choice of an individual.. Blaming the world solves nothing..

"Evry1 wants 2 save the world.. No1 would help mother in the kitchen"...

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 Post subject: Re: Imagine if... (Just imagine)
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“What is a cynic? A man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.” Oscar Wilde

"A cynic is a man who, when he smells flowers, looks around for a coffin. "
H. L. Mencken

The world is messed up.. and not every man is a gud man.. There was Hitler n Stalin... but didn't we had Lincolns n Gandhis... So it is the choice of an individual.. Blaming the world solves nothing..

"Evry1 wants 2 save the world.. No1 would help mother in the kitchen"...

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