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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 5:17 am 
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That is what you call Hypocrisy my friend.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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It is all relative, and once yous start asking questions like that and trying to figure it out, then you start getting dangerously close to the "conspiracy theorist" parts of the whole thing.

Fact is, the way things are going now have been in the works and planning for a long time, and anything that can increase the credibility of the propaganda machines is drawn upon, including things like giving the nobel peace prize to clearly undeserving recipients, for the sole purpose of bolstering public opinion of them.

I really would like to tell you what it is all about, and what all of this confusing hypocritical corporate war mongering expensive mess is about, but I do not think that is what I should do.

You are waking up now, thinking for yourself. Do not stop now. You have the internet just like I do.

A good place to start, especially if you live in the United States, is to go to youtube and search for the speech that Bush Sr. gave 10 years TO THE DAY, before 9/11 in front of the UN (date: 9/11/1991 ) Listen carefully!

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:54 am 
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And there is a documentary by Robert Greenwald that I would like to recommend as well. Its called The truth about the Iraq war. It shows how Colin Powell did not even use satellite imagery to justify invading Iraq when he briefed the UN security council. He showed diagrams. Thats right, an artists rendition.

And interviews given by UN weapons inspectors, CIA officials (retd), and you will see how much of bullcrap it all really is.

BTW is it the New world order speech Seth?

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Aye. I watched that one on Netflix. It literally made me cry. All I could think of is my family members who went over there during that time, the ones who did not come home, and the one who did. The lives of my loved ones were not worth the greed and lies.

I get pretty emotional when I really think about it.

The one who did come home came home a little screwed up, as he was blown about 50 yards out of the top of his company humvee after being nailed by a roadside bomb. The guy who detonated the bomb, I am told, also sacrificed his wife and children in the explosion. The bomb was in their car, and they were stopped on the side of the road, kids in the back seat, wife passenger, dad with his head under the hood as though they were broken down. My cousin's company stopped to offer assistance and...pow.


Anyway, it is certainly obvious how corrupt and dishonest these people are. How they are not in prison at the beckon of the american people, for the remainder of their natural lives...I do not know.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Indeed! :(

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Seth wrote:
Wow Bork, thats just about dead on.

Did you know that there are 5 lobbyists from the federal reserve ALONE for every congressman / senator in Washington?

Its really sneaky how they slipped this into the debt bill. They break this debt ceiling issue like its armageddon, when the fact of the matter is that we have raised the debt ceiling once a year for years. This time, it was hyped up and disagreed on and held above our heads like financial armageddon! They basically held you and I hostage, with the threat of financial meltdown, in order to get their way. It is disghusting, and you need only use Google to see that there are many many others, even in mainstream media who agree with me! (that suprized the hell out of me!! :shock: )

If you have never witnessed politics in such a way being manipulated by corporations and banks to get their will to fruition, this is VERY in your face!
Ive looked today, and all over the internet, this new panel is being referred to as "Super Congress".

They are not taking little bites out of the constitution any more. It is being eroded exponentially now, and our liberty is withering on the vine! The banks and corporations, just as Bork said, have been seeking for decades to "remove the middle-men" from the equation. With this bill they all but do that.

I urge you to investigate what the "revolving door of politics" is in Washington, and how it lead to these changes. It is important, and detrimental the very freedoms you take for granted!

Im ok with a recession, a lowered standard of living that so many of us have become accustomed to simply because inflation has made things so expensive. Jeez. Have you gone grocery shopping lately?! :?

What I am not prepared for is watching the constitution that grants us freedom, being literally rendered useless against a corporate & bank takeover in Washington! What is more, it is not happening with a bang...It is happening with a whimper. :(


Well F-ing said!!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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I smell an American revolution coming. I served 4 years in the U.S. Army, I put my life on the line for the freedoms everyone takes for granted, including myself. Now to watch these freedoms be striped away by big corporations disgusts me.

I have brothers laying in the ground and their actions being wasted away by greed.(R.I.P. Sgt. Donald Oakes and SFC Michael Battles.)
I'm a disabled vet and it literally breaks my heart to watch my wonderful country melt away. :cry:

It will take every American in the country to stand up against our government to even think about changing it. 1 man cant do it alone. I would like to see every American just for 1 day not pay taxes, buy no petrol/gasoline, pay no bills, basically hurt our government thru their very deep pockets. A nation wide boycott so to speak. Just remember nothing is going to change until we Americans act on it and stop talking about it.
AMERICAN REVOLUTION 2012!!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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I smell an American revolution coming. I served 4 years in the U.S. Army, I put my life on the line for the freedoms everyone takes for granted, including myself. Now to watch these freedoms be striped away by big corporations disgusts me.

I have brothers laying in the ground and their actions being wasted away by greed.(R.I.P. Sgt. Donald Oakes and SFC Santa Clause Battles.)
I'm a disabled vet and it literally breaks my heart to watch my wonderful country melt away. :cry:

It will take every American in the country to stand up against our government to even think about changing it. 1 man cant do it alone. I would like to see every American just for 1 day not pay taxes, buy no petrol/gasoline, pay no bills, basically hurt our government thru their very deep pockets. A nation wide boycott so to speak. Just remember nothing is going to change until we Americans act on it and stop talking about it.
AMERICAN REVOLUTION 2012!!!!


I put Micheal in there and it put Santa Clause, WTH!!!!

***( R.I.P Sgt Donald Oakes and SFC Micheal Battles)

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Seth, interesting theory, it really is. However nobody ever mentions WHY people are doing these things. And if you say illuminati I'll burn an orphanage down.







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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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I don't know to be perfectly honest. There are plenty of breadcrumbs to follow though. Much of it is common public knowledge. Only reason you do not know about it is that you haven't been asking the right questions.

Why would a Senator or Congressman knowingly allow a bill to pass which defaces the constitution & bill of rights and turns them into so much toilet paper? Think it doesn't happen in real life? What if I told you it just happened last week! :lol:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Defense_Authorization_Act


Suddenly all those crack-pots rattling on about FEMA camps being set up as mass detention centers do not sound so crazy after all...

This is an easy time to be asking hard questions. Both to yourself and your elected representatives.

You are not getting any younger, and freedom is not winning the fight ;)


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