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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:15 pm 
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The reason the recession is so bad right now is because the economy takes time to heal. It doesn't fix with the snap of your fingers, there is no immediate cure, it takes time to work completely. However if you lok at the economy it has grown since the stimulus. Hence the stimulus is working.

There was NO illegal bombing raid in Egypt done by us lmao. We didn't send troops to help with that either lmao. You must be thinking of when he sent seal team six in to Pakistan to kill Osama. He did that because it is very suspicious that Osama could live in a high populated city, inside a million dollar compound, blocks away from Pakistan's military academy without the aid of the Pakistani government or at least some members of it. The attack was supposed to be a sneak attack. The black Hawks we used were modified so they were invisible to modern radar technology. If we talked to Pakistan then we risked themor government officials tipping Osama off.

Osama's death is controversial. That is BS. Next you are going to tell me that all of the conspiracy theories people have are true.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Tenkai wrote:
if the stimulus is working why is the recession so bad still?


because the economy was so bad to begin with the stimulus didn't magical bring our economy back to what it was but it prevented it from going into a full out depression and got it on the track to recovery but recovery is always slow

us troops were sent into Egypt during the revolution with the role of protecting and evacuation us citizens if the situation became too violent and not done illegally

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
PostPosted: Sat Aug 06, 2011 3:43 pm 
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GerberBaby1 wrote:
How is that related to Obama? It is at a state level so Obama has no say in the matter as for Obama doing nothing that is a joke right?

Obama has repealed "Don't Ask Don't Tell"
Obama has withdrawn from Afghanistan
Obama has successfully killed Osama Binladen (Bush played a role as well)
Obama diplomatically dealt with the issues in Egypt (Egypt is our main supporter in our fight against terrorism in the middle east and a mishandling of that situation would have screwed us over)
Obama's stimulus is working.

There are tons of other things he as done i am just too lazy to type them.

The stimulus didn't work. As you can see we are now heading into an even deeper recession.

also he added troops in the middle east he didnt withdraw any.And he did nothing about Egypt he said what any politician would say, he stayed out of it and basically said that is wrong and i hope it stops soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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The stimulus didn't work. As you can see we are now heading into an even deeper recession.

also he added troops in the middle east he didnt withdraw any.And he did nothing about Egypt he said what any politician would say, he stayed out of it and basically said that is wrong and i hope it stops soon.


the economy isnt heading for another recession now it is still overal improving but the rate at which it is improving is slowing but that is expected do a degree as it would have to slow at some point

the stimulus did work but it was never going to fix the economy by its self and congress hasn't done enough to follow through with it


and he pulled most of the troops out for Iraq and has a plan for starting to pull troops out of Afghanistan by the end of the year

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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SO many people are un-informed, Obama made a surge of troops in the middle east. he never decreased the numbers. he added troops to the situation.

And the stimulus didn't do anything it bought up a bunch of banks debt so they could stay in business. it did nothing to improve the jobs for middle class. and when the DJIA drops 400+ points on monday you will see the recession we are in. it will be 10 times worse than 2008. And this time were not going to have any money to bail us out.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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trevor1601 wrote:
SO many people are un-informed, Obama made a surge of troops in the middle east. he never decreased the numbers. he added troops to the situation.


apparently they are uniformed
yes he sent more troops to afghanistan initially but he then pulled troops out of iraq
last front line soldiers left iraq a year ago leaving 50 thousand troops to train and support the iraqi personnel all which are to leave by the end of this year
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lence.html

and the start of the us withdraw from afghanistan is planned to start before the end of the year

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/23/world ... wanted=all



as for the threat of another recession it is a possibility but the stimulus was never going to fix the economy but it started us on the path to recovery but a two year old plan needs to be supported afterward which congress hasn't done

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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that and many other reasons we are going into another recession. I voted for obama and he is 3rd term of Bush. all you have to do is look at what he has done.

he could have repealed bush tax breaks 2 years ago, but he wait till last weak to bring it up when republicans could veto it.

either he is incredibly stupid and not a good leader. or he wants to make it look like he cares about it and try to pass it when it has no chance of passing it. like i said when he first started he could of gotten rid of it when the dems had the majority. but he waited till last second to get rid of it>>

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Dude, you don't know what you are talking about. We have corrected everything you have said so let me do this one more time.

When you look at Egypt Obama did not do nothing. At first we did not take sides for the following reason. We PLACED Mubarack in control of Egypt. However now he was attempting to abuse his power by placing his son as his successor. We eventually sided with the Egyptian people and told Mubarack to resign. Later on, he did. It was a difficult decision and all though his choice did not directly effect the result however had we directly backed Mubarack like alot of congress wanted then Egypt our main/only ally in our fight against terrorism in the Middle East would be anti-US.

As for repealing the Bush tax cuts that is not Obama. If political ignorance like you believe that them I cannot help you. I suggest you google the US Congress so you can figure out exactly what they do because it would be up to them wether or not to repeal the tax cuts. Obama just has veto power. Honestly.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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yes, and congress was controlled by the dems when obama took office. senate and house were dems. if they wanted a repeal to the bush tax cuts then they could have. but, they wait till republicans control the house.

and the president siding against a dictator we put in place isnt big news.they have several more lined up.

go to the obama rally or something. he is no different than Bush. even increasing troop presence in the middle east. and starting new war for oil/lobbyist needs in libya. and before you try to explain why were in libya...

their is a few of other countries with rebellions/bloodshed going on right now, Syria is just as deadly as libya. and all they get from us is hilary clinton saying the killing should stop.

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 Post subject: Re: Are you a citizen of the USA?
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Trev, the American reaction to any violent act in the middle east is directly proportional to the amount of oil present in that country :D

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