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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:15 am 
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Nothing should give anyone the trolling rights - flaming, personal attacks and faul language should not be used, especially not by mods - i posted in order to challange those so called "esteemed"long term players that seem to be loitering around these forums, tapping ech other on the shoulders and call each other a valuable player - the fact is that milage gained on the forums does NOT directly translate into "being accomplished" player. The haste and intensity in defending those of the "accomplished" club just confirm my assumption.

As to your post Polarbear, that piece of prose stands true on its own and has no direct connection to my post. It is funny how often responses in these forums remind on the story where the teacher asks the student to describe a horse for him; the student starts with:"Horse is not a cat. Cat is..."

Maybe, just maybe that becease they are accomplished players.

Also you do not seem to realise what "trolling" is.
Trolling is the act of pissing somebody of, on purpose.
Something boosting your ego is not.

As for the people you "challenged".


As for me.
I don't like bragging in "serious" threads, but its a necessary evil it seems.
-Senator of the NAF, the biggest/most organized federation in the history of BD.
-I was invited to DoF, a.k.a NANC, who won E4A2.
-I was invited to the same allaince(NANC/DoF) but i coulden't join, they ended up winning E4A4.
-NANC/DoF/ASEN/FF/Inquisition/TURF/HKF/XXIV/OE/GONE/ONVE member.
-HKF/TURF founder.
-I fought of a whole alliance(top 5/10)(with TURF). by mostly using nukes.
-In havoc(not the best way to show "skill", meh...) i owned 2 continents by myself(or close to it) while having 100+ nukes.
-I was the first to get the GoA rank in E4.
-I had huge power lead in E4A2. which was way harder back in those days.
-I held the "power" record of E4 for 6 months.
-I was the minister of war in FF(E2A1).
-I reached the ranks of 2/6/11/12/16/more..
-I did reach the rank of 1, but ended up being bs'ed.(I do not consider that 1 rank "good" either.)
-I'm loyal.
-I could be extremely active.
-I won 1 round of E4(ended 2th on another round), which is considered to be the 2th highest skill based world.
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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:04 am 
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I said:
rederoin wrote:
Pagan wrote:
Nothing should give anyone the trolling rights



Your response was:
Maybe, just maybe that becease they are accomplished players.

Also you do not seem to realise what "trolling" is.
Trolling is the act of pissing somebody of, on purpose.




Am i to understand that you are arguing that trolling in fact should be granted as a right to the "accomplished" club members or you are merely giving an example to my simile about non-relevancy of responses sometimes posted on the forums?

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:39 am 
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Pagan wrote:
I said:
rederoin wrote:
Pagan wrote:
Nothing should give anyone the trolling rights



Your response was:
Maybe, just maybe that becease they are accomplished players.

Also you do not seem to realise what "trolling" is.
Trolling is the act of pissing somebody of, on purpose.




Am i to understand that you are arguing that trolling in fact should be granted as a right to the "accomplished" club members or you are merely giving an example to my simile about non-relevancy of responses sometimes posted on the forums?

They are not trolling.
I just explained that.
L2know what trolling is.

I also suggest you get of your high horse.

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:49 am 
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Pagan, the best player isn't decided by ranks but by skill. Numbers barely mean anything.

Most likely on a world, Pagan, you should be able to get a higher rank then Kane, Melfice, Routhy and Rederoin here (me to if I still played), but I can assure you any of said above will end up winning the age the second you start a war with them :)

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:05 am 
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Pagan, the best player isn't decided by ranks but by skill. Numbers barely mean anything.

Most likely on a world, Pagan, you should be able to get a higher rank then Kane, Melfice, Routhy and Rederoin here (me to if I still played), but I can assure you any of said above will end up winning the age the second you start a war with them :)

I'm not that good :<
Well maybe.. ;)
I'm not on the top-pro level.
But working together with kane? hell naw.




If you really wanne test your skills.
Defeat NANC/BYZ/GMK/sky working together.
Now that requires skill!

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:05 am 
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Pagan played both eras in my alliance and can outrank anyone she wants to, I would definitely not want her on any team other than mine. So saying she needs to beat melfice or routhy or rederoin before she is respected is just straight up hilarious.

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:02 pm 
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Nice to see juno on the forum, and to have a discussion about her is kinda funny.

She is seriously to new to be mentioned among the greatest players, 2 eras won is nothing, even I have done more and I'm a terrible players (which you kane will probably tell everyone in your next post anyway ^,^)

I say give her some time, she do have alot of potential, but I woulden't call someone who haven't even lead a alliance the greatest player of all time xD
It's not a requirement, but it show how good you are tactical, not just being online to take conquers and follow orders :)

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
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Well she was online to follow orders and help the team infinitely more than you. :)

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:10 pm 
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If you really wanted to peg yourself as a pro based on score alone, I'd advise trying to keep pace with Unky. Though I personally don't see rank/score as the end all when it comes to judging pro players.

That being said, well done for rank 1 and 2 on E1 and E4 Pagan. Quite an accomplishment.

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 Post subject: Re: Debate: Am I the game's greatest player ever.
PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 12:55 pm 
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psg188 wrote:
Well she was online to follow orders and help the team infinitely more than you. :)

I'm psykick! :O xD

I know, damn me having a life xD
But I didn't really see her doing much tactic which would make her the top player other then being able to send squads at easy conquers.

But as I said, I see alot of potential in this young padawan, that is if she can keep it up ;)

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