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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:00 am 
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Honestly, I think going from 1.5k blues to 0 right out of the bat isn't the best way to go. We could've tried an intermediate step first, in which we could just drastically reduce the rewards; say rank 2 gets 500 blues and rank 3 gets 100 blues. It's certainly not as enticing before, and they could be reduced further, to say 100 blues for rank 2 and 50 blues for rank 3. Something like this would be prefferable to no rewards, and would still keep higher meaning to ranks 2 and 3 than ranks 4 and below, as well as giving a reward, albeit small, to those that strive to at least be second best. There's also absolutely no reason now for an alliance to preserve their units if they know (or believe they know) that they will not attain rank 1, which would make battle huggs actually worse with even more alliances willing to simply suicide into others.

Actually i agree wid ur suggestion jus this part i don't agree
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50 blues for rank 3

This should not be...Rank 3 no tokens...rank 2 maybe can get bt rank 3 should get none..lets see how this ongoing m2 era goes wid this suggestion as there are three top teams who i am sure are battling for First position...

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:31 pm 
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alexander let people say the opinion they have just like you did
you are taking control over this board
if you are a person in charge then you are totaly ok to impose your thinking over and over again but since you are not restrain for further comments please
we all know allready you are just one of the people that can't evolve into the game so you like nothing better then only rank 1 to get prizes
and i am not scared of whatever you will say because i don't care and really have nothing to hide - i am an honest player and all know me like that and for your info this account for the forum was made a lot of time after i played since it gave tokens at that time so in fact i am older then you here but i do know how to respect people who deserve it

so once again - let people post and show a bit more restrain - the game is not you

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:35 pm 
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nice admin ilona.thats why everyone will fight for rank 1 haha it will be even more worse then a battlefield but it will be a battle world.haha nice.this gona be interstind


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:10 pm 
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If we would change it now to 'some' tokens for 2nd and 3rd, it will cause a riot!
It would be like " NOOOO, last era I got 1500 tokens, now i get only 100!" and so on. And nerfing that again is close to impossible.

I honestly prefer the hard way on this: 2nd and 3rd - no tokens! Basta!

We'll try it now and we'll see how it works out. If we have still this amount of battlehugs and sub empires handing over relics, we need to think about another way.
Every new era will start with this standard. Solo can be different and e6 (Championsship) will be for sure!


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:31 pm 
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I would like to throw in that Mars 2 this era, the new rewards are being used. My word back from several commanders in the field, is that this is a huge success. The era is action packed, and tensions are high!


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:10 am 
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If we would change it now to 'some' tokens for 2nd and 3rd, it will cause a riot!
It would be like " NOOOO, last era I got 1500 tokens, now i get only 100!" and so on. And nerfing that again is close to impossible.

I honestly prefer the hard way on this: 2nd and 3rd - no tokens! Basta!

We'll try it now and we'll see how it works out. If we have still this amount of battlehugs and sub empires handing over relics, we need to think about another way.
Every new era will start with this standard. Solo can be different and e6 (Championsship) will be for sure!


Hmm don't you think more people will react "NOOOOO bla bla bla" if the rewards for rank 2 and 3 will be totally gone as opposed to only reducing the reward? :))

As for the championship era, I believe that you should implement this no reward for rank 2 and 3 since after all IT IS THE CHAMPIONSHIP ERA :))


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:15 am 
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Hmm don't you think more people will react "NOOOOO bla bla bla" if the rewards for rank 2 and 3 will be totally gone as opposed to only reducing the reward? :))

As for the championship era, I believe that you should implement this no reward for rank 2 and 3 since after all IT IS THE CHAMPIONSHIP ERA :))


Every era should have competition! :D If you feel that no rank 2 and 3 tokens will bring competition to the CE, then why won't it bring competition to all other worlds? :P

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:28 am 
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rcvs wrote:
Hmm don't you think more people will react "NOOOOO bla bla bla" if the rewards for rank 2 and 3 will be totally gone as opposed to only reducing the reward? :))

As for the championship era, I believe that you should implement this no reward for rank 2 and 3 since after all IT IS THE CHAMPIONSHIP ERA :))


Every era should have competition! :D If you feel that no rank 2 and 3 tokens will bring competition to the CE, then why won't it bring competition to all other worlds? :P


Don't misinterpret me but I said that as a response to Ilona's message that giving reduced rewards for rank 2 and rank 3 will cause a "riot"

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If we would change it now to 'some' tokens for 2nd and 3rd, it will cause a riot!
It would be like " NOOOO, last era I got 1500 tokens, now i get only 100!" and so on. And nerfing that again is close to impossible.

I honestly prefer the hard way on this: 2nd and 3rd - no tokens! Basta!

We'll try it now and we'll see how it works out. If we have still this amount of battlehugs and sub empires handing over relics, we need to think about another way.
Every new era will start with this standard. Solo can be different and e6 (Championsship) will be for sure!


Seems to me that it is more "riot-like" if the rewards for rank 2 and 3 will be gone compared to reducing it.

And I mentioned the implementation of no rewards for rank 2 and 3 only in CE because IT IS CHAMPIONSHIP and since it is like once a year there won't be much of a deal if the others won't get anything.

The reason I THINK it is better to reduce the rewards instead of no rewards at all is because many people seem to oppose the idea of no rewards and they also want to leave if it will be continued.

Think about it. For example in a SOLO world, wherein let's say, the usual reward is up to rank 15? (not sure) but then all of a sudden you only allow the reward for the top1 player, maybe it will increase competition for the top spot but it will not motivate the others as much to go for the other ranks and will eventually led them to abandon that era altogether. THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE LONG RUN AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I THINK. Do you understand my point? I hope so haha

I'm just saying it may be better to gradually reduce the rewards to maybe increase the competition rather than zero rewards altogether. In reducing the rewards, you are GRADUALLY introducing the new reward system instead of just all of a sudden the rewards are gone.


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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:34 am 
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Gradually reducing it will as ilona said cause peopel to go "nooo, last era I got xxxx, now I only got xxx" for a long long time, many times.

It's better to quit cold turkey. All better prepare themself to fight for rank 1 in the future eras. I wish you all good luck, you might need it!

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 Post subject: Re: No tokens for 2nd and 3rd alliance!
PostPosted: Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:44 am 
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Don't misinterpret me but I said that as a response to Ilona's message that giving reduced rewards for rank 2 and rank 3 will cause a "riot"

Seems to me that it is more "riot-like" if the rewards for rank 2 and 3 will be gone compared to reducing it.

And I mentioned the implementation of no rewards for rank 2 and 3 only in CE because IT IS CHAMPIONSHIP and since it is like once a year there won't be much of a deal if the others won't get anything.

The reason I THINK it is better to reduce the rewards instead of no rewards at all is because many people seem to oppose the idea of no rewards and they also want to leave if it will be continued.

Think about it. For example in a SOLO world, wherein let's say, the usual reward is up to rank 15? (not sure) but then all of a sudden you only allow the reward for the top1 player, maybe it will increase competition for the top spot but it will not motivate the others as much to go for the other ranks and will eventually led them to abandon that era altogether. THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE LONG RUN AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I THINK. Do you understand my point? I hope so haha

I'm just saying it may be better to gradually reduce the rewards to maybe increase the competition rather than zero rewards altogether. In reducing the rewards, you are GRADUALLY introducing the new reward system instead of just all of a sudden the rewards are gone.


Alright where to begin, I personally think that is a better thing, a lot of people have a ton of blue tokens. And its making it so that these cache's of blue tokens diminish.

I don't see worlds crashing and burning yet. In fact I see more competition on M2 this era then last. So if anything this has been a good thing.

CE I personally think should already be 1 winning alliance 1 prize. But that's also just my opinion.

Alright I've personally seen like a handful of people actually leave this game and NEVER come back. Everyone says they'll leave but this game eventually pulls someone back. Heck Omega and F3rrt was on the forums just the other day. Which means people still think of this game. We have players still from OC that remember getting 0 reward tokens for winning the era.

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Think about it. For example in a SOLO world, wherein let's say, the usual reward is up to rank 15? (not sure) but then all of a sudden you only allow the reward for the top1 player, maybe it will increase competition for the top spot but it will not motivate the others as much to go for the other ranks and will eventually led them to abandon that era altogether. THERE WILL BE LESS PEOPLE PLAYING THE GAME IN THE LONG RUN AT LEAST THAT IS WHAT I THINK. Do you understand my point? I hope so haha


I just wanna emphasize this section right here. How often are solos run? Not very often. And I dunno about that but that seems like a "special event" with special event type rules. Less people aye? I mean have you not seen the amount of people placing recently? Mar 1 is completely full and earth is nearly there as well. Less people. The more and more new people find this system the more they'll get used to as well.

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Gradually reducing it will as ilona said cause peopel to go "nooo, last era I got xxxx, now I only got xxx" for a long long time, many times.

It's better to quit cold turkey. All better prepare themself to fight for rank 1 in the future eras. I wish you all good luck, you might need it!

Couldn't have said it any better myself

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