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 Post subject: Re: The chinese will rule the sporting world
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:20 pm 
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I'm sorry I'm totally lost. What? Are you talking about deformities? Or are you talking about autism, down syndrome, mental illness, sexuality etc.

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 Post subject: Re: The chinese will rule the sporting world
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I'm sorry I'm totally lost. What? Are you talking about deformities? Or are you talking about autism, down syndrome, mental illness, sexuality etc.

all of them dyl... everything that will, or might, go wrong with the newborn baby.

and just when "Chinese" or the East turned to genetic problems :/

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It would be inhumane not to fix physical deformities. Give them a normal life. It doesn't make them unique or special, there's a much greater chance of it making them depressed and/or self conscious.

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 Post subject: Re: The chinese will rule the sporting world
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And Allen, why should we not implement this as a policy? I can't say I don't agree, but what is your reasoning for it?


Eugenics is wrong. I would even go on to say that its immoral. Forced sterilizations, forced abortions etc., Abortions decided by the mother is Okay, but when the mother refuses then no one else has the right to force her to have an abortion. Thats just ridiculous. The Nazis did it. They killed deformed and mentally challenged individuals in a bid to increase the overall gene pool. Id prefer the gene pool to stay a bit inferior if you can call it that, in order to stay human. Certain things are better left without science interfering.

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Last time I saw you posting you were posting long, detailed posts with arguments and reasonings, what happened?


About what? Anyway, I dont have much time. Just check in every once in a while these days. ^^

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 Post subject: Re: The chinese will rule the sporting world
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Why is it wrong? We're not nazis. It's not in the name of eugenics. So what's the big deal?

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Why is it wrong? We're not nazis. It's not in the name of eugenics. So what's the big deal?

who are u to determine if the baby is worth being born? Deformed, maybe, bad gene, maybe, but not useless.

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I didn't say anything about abortions or if they deserve to be born. At all.

I was saying that if you can fix them, do it.

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Give them a normal life. It doesn't make them unique or special, there's a much greater chance of it making them depressed and/or self conscious.


And who are you to determine that the baby should be kept the way it is? You can't deny that a person would be happier being normal. Not deformed. To not allow a doctor to fix your child when he can is inhumane. Imagine all the stares he/she will get. Imagine all the bullying. Imagine all the problems. And for what? For opposing an ideology that's no threat to us anymore? For keeping them as they are, so they can be different or special? No. It's not worth it.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -bars.html

Now that is a little bit disturbing :S

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Why is it wrong? We're not nazis. It's not in the name of eugenics. So what's the big deal?


I dont consider abortion immoral, if the mother decides so. To me, simply speaking from a moral standpoint, I would be pro-life if it was an independent life form. A baby isnt. Its dependent on the mother and therefore the mother can decide whether to abort or not. BTW dont get me wrong, I should have said Foetus, not baby. The Foetus in abortions, is not yet a living person, its just a bunch of cells if you can call it that. Or I dont know how to put it better.

I consider Eugenics or anything that resembles Eugenic principles, especially forced abortions, sterilizations etc immoral. That is done not through choice, but through coercion. Hence why its wrong.

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