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 Post subject: Re: Religion
PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2012 3:37 pm 
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That's a good paradox Aister, but then again, if such a being exists, do you think he will be ruled by the same logics or rules we know? I do believe he exists in a different dimension where the rules of the world are different than ours (eg: time and space might not exist there!). It would explain why he would be omnipotent on this world. Eventually, it's all theory, but there's still plenty of arguments to support God's existance, specially when we can't know crap about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Religion
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Time might not exist there? So what does he do? Stay perpetually frozen in one position?

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No, but that our concepts of time and space do not apply for that dimension. Or then, how did time and space start to exist if they're eternal?

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The same problem presents itself when dealing with a God.

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In the 4th dimension time is the 4th dimension, so how is the idea of the 4th dimension plausible with the thought process of a being from the 3rd dimension?

It is not possible using our thought process/physics.

Disproving God with our rules means nothing.

For the record I am atheist I just see the logic behind religion and 'god' and anyone open to logic would agree that God can neither be proven or disproved with our physics that is if God was a being from a different dimension. All we can do is speculate. Nothing will be accomplished here.

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Completely unrelated, I read a cracked article (yeah I know) that pointed out that in the future, there might be some form of peace on earth because of an increase in the average lifespan due to technological and medical advancements, and in turn that means countries would be spending the money designated for defense/war and spending it on programs like medicare and social security.

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Completely unrelated, I read a cracked article (yeah I know) that pointed out that in the future, there might be some form of peace on earth because of an increase in the average lifespan due to technological and medical advancements, and in turn that means countries would be spending the money designated for defense/war and spending it on programs like medicare and social security.


In the United States we spend most of our budget on our military.

600Billion a year and counting.

I once asked, "What would the world be like if we took all that money and pumped it into something like NASA," by now we probably would have moon bases and mars research buildings and we would be exploring space outside our solar system more aggressively. Why knows what would have been accomplished by now, farms on mars ending world hunger ^.^ endless possibilitys.

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In the 4th dimension time is the 4th dimension, so how is the idea of the 4th dimension plausible with the thought process of a being from the 3rd dimension?

It is not possible using our thought process/physics.

Disproving God with our rules means nothing.

Basically this. I'm Christian for the record, and I believe that there is enough evidence to support that God exists, though I have met athiests who make wonderful points.


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What evidence?

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What evidence?


What evidence specifically rids the probability of a higher power?

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