and each of my billions of sperm can become human life, just give it an egg.
yet i commit killing that make genocide look whimpish if thats considered human life. every time i masturbate, heck even in successful pregnancies, a billion die off as not fast enough. it too "can" have life. how about fertilized eggs, zygotes? 25-50% of them are accidentally flushed out with the menstrual cycle.

shouldnt you be enacting policies regarding the capture and re implantation of fertilized zygotes? maxipads are the tool of satan. let them be replaced by tiny little jars that collect the period splatter and gets tested for a zygote.

there is a difference between life and being alive. if i were a vegetable. you know, comatose for a long period of time. i consider myself dead during that time. burn me, kick me in the face, sing me a love song and attempt to woo me. my brain will continue to tick. but nobody is home. lifewise, a lump of cells with no nervous system is comparable to a kidney or a potato.
its life. thats for sure. but it isnt really alive.
it may or may not have life. same applies to sperm.



so lets all have 20 children each! as many as you can! women are hereby outlawed, unless they have a medical condition to be not pregnant for longer than 6 months after their first ovulation. thats right. it appears you want some faster developing 11 year old girls to carry children. after all, that is the first role, everything else comes secondary.
LET IT BE KNOWN. VAULTDWELLER101 WANTS 11 YEAR OLD GIRLS IMPREGNATED BECAUSE AS MINDLESS ANIMALS. all we should do is breed.

question to all: are there any females here? what is your opinion on this. what is your opinion of males having the most opinion on this?

Explain why you think it is stupid? Unless you are going to consider it out of context, just as a sentence...well then THAT's stupid. I meant to say, when the mother feels she cant have the baby, or when she feels she cant take care of the baby, or when she does not wanna have the baby, then abortion is not a bad idea. After all, whats the point of having a kid you dont want?



Yeah, am curious too.

Ducky, I wont even begin to say what is wrong with your post about me...

And allen, I knew you'd think that way: that idealism has no room in reality. What then? We should accept that babies are being thrown into garbage cans? That people have to beg for food, water and money in the streets? I don't have to go out to Africa with a single set of clothes, no money, food or water, and go out begging: I have a pretty good reasoning to figure how bad it is, but it would be pointless for me to do that. What isn't pointless of me is to do something about it. Whether by speaking out in forums about it, or studying my ass off so I can help the best way I can do. If I didn't cherish idealism, then I would have to admit this messed up world is here to stay. I refuse. So I won't stop being what you call naive, impractical and stupid. I preffer to be that way than to accept the things I know are wrong to rule.

And really, most of these problems can be solved with adequate orientation and programs to help these people. Obviously, these are non-existant on the areas they are mostly needed. So, we need to fix this. In the meanwhile? Well, we can discuss as much of it here, but it's yet another grey zone with no consensus. Still, do we all agree that the circumstances in which people have to choose between abortion and under extreme poverty must be changed ASAP? Or do you suggest abortion to be a permanent solution for the problem?

Again if you are gonna "cherish" idealism, you are never gonna solve the problem. Understand where abortion is valid:

1. The mother does not want to have a baby at that particular time in her life. She is not ready for the responsibility.

2. The situation - family, financial or otherwise does not favor raising a child at that time

3. The baby wasn't expected - for example a teen got pregnant, and has so much else to do in life, that a baby is unwanted at that time.

All these are valid reasons and there could be many more to abort. So lets not digress, go off on a tangent and talk about extreme poverty and morals. If you cry irresponsible, then its not you that is taking responsibility for it, its not you that is going through pregnancy or even raising that child. So you have absolutely zero right to make a decision for someone else.

Secondly, we dont have have to accept that extreme poverty as a existent phenomenon. We can work to solve it. But making a woman below the poverty line have a baby, is not gonna solve poverty now, is it? Population is the first reason for poverty. Check every country where the population is more, you will find lots of poverty. India, China, US (has 50 million people under poverty). Check, Australia, Norway etc., Very less population, very less poverty. So keeping on increasing the population, making women have babies they cant support is not gonna solve your poverty issue.

wat r u expecting us to say? Repeating the rules of the internet again?

I don't go and say abortion is inhuman or not, I don't think too deep about that. But I do believe that abandoning a child, especially a new-born baby, is inhuman.

If the woman does not want the baby she can give it away for adoption.

Its not as easy as it sounds. What if she does not wanna go through pregnancy because there are other things in her life she wants to do and maybe the baby was an accident? Now dont cry irresponsibility and get all self righteous on me. You are not the one going through pregnancy. Pregnancy means your life stalls for 10 months, and then a month or two afterward. Some women may not want that. Its their right to choose whether they suffer pregnancies or not.



Exactly. Going by the posts here one would have to remain celibate and be a virgin until they get married Cuz you dont wanna pop a pill in, and "abort" the zygote now do you? Immoral!!