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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:00 pm 
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felgrand, are you high?

WW2 was not started for religious reasons. I am not sure what they are teaching you in school :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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no war is started on religion, they used religion as an excuses to wage war. Their actual reason is to gain land and conquer for their own countries.

if u're talking about the excuses that the Germany used to wage the war. It's about an event at Gleiwitz. I won't tell the whole story but u can read it from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gleiwitz_incident.

and no, Japan joined the war right when the war began, they acted mostly on the Pacific and Coastal Region, re-conquering European colonies like China, Mongolia and Vietnam. Just after the Pearl Harbor attack, US joined the war.

and if u want more examples, how about the three kingdoms war in China...

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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Sure felgrand, ignore what I said because it entirely invalidates your whole argument up to this point. You would be a great politician.

dylsupreme1 wrote:
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Name a major war that wasnt started by religion.


American civil war.

World wars 1 and 2.

Cold war.

Greco-Persian Wars.

Punic wars.


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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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dylsupreme1 wrote:
Sure felgrand, ignore what I said because it entirely invalidates your whole argument up to this point. You would be a great politician.

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Name a major war that wasnt started by religion.


American civil war.

World wars 1 and 2.

Cold war.

Greco-Persian Wars.

Punic wars.

LOL, when did i ignore? I posted a counter to this. I gave you the american civil war, and as i said the cold war wasn't a real war. However the Greek/Persian wars and the Punic wars were both in the name of whatever gods they worshiped. Try back logging.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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felgrand, are you high?

WW2 was not started for religious reasons. I am not sure what they are teaching you in school :roll:


So what was the holocaust?

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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actually I can name of thousands of wars that happened in my country or region that is not becuz of war...

Vietnam - US war for example
North and South Korea
and thousands of war between Vietnam and China from the ancient time
and thousands of war between smaller counties that formed nowaday-China in the ancient time too

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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felgrand, are you high?

WW2 was not started for religious reasons. I am not sure what they are teaching you in school :roll:


So what was the holocaust?


The very unfortunate will of a mad man. It wasn't even because of religion, he just used the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's problems.

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felgrand, are you high?

WW2 was not started for religious reasons. I am not sure what they are teaching you in school :roll:


So what was the holocaust?


The very unfortunate will of a mad man. It wasn't even because of religion, he just used the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's problems.


Yes, as i said, he used a RELIGIOUS group as a scapegoat. Point proven.

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felgrand08 wrote:
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felgrand, are you high?

WW2 was not started for religious reasons. I am not sure what they are teaching you in school :roll:


So what was the holocaust?


First of the holocaust was NOT the reason for WW2. After WW1, Germany was humiliated. Hitler used this opportunity to get to power. His designs were German domination in Europe. The holocaust resulted because of a policy of Nazi Germany. That Jews were the reason why Germans suffered. So they were killed not because of religion, but because they were portrayed as evil. That they controlled everything. That they caused poverty among the German population. That they were inferior people, who were oppressing superior Aryans etc., Infact the holocaust according to me started way before WW2. Every aspect of the German Nazi government was dedicated to reducing Jews to nothing. They were stripped off of their citizenships, they weren't included in the German national census, they were fired from jobs, their accounts were frozen, Jewish stores were boycotted, their possessions taken from them, they no longer qualified for government jobs etc etc. The killing was just the final part of it. Hence why its called the "final solution".

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Yes, as i said, he used a RELIGIOUS group as a scapegoat. Point proven.


Yes it was a group of people belonging to a certain religion, but their religion didnt matter as much as what they WERE that did.

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 Post subject: Re: God: real or fake?
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felgrand u still haven't respond to my post

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