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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 1:36 pm 
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"NWO Nutter" :lol:

With minimal effort, one can simply look around at videos of many of our world's most influential heads of state and power figures saying it themselves. Start with Bush Sr's address to the UN on Sept. 11th 1991. It is the most obvious. Even Barry Soetoro has openly stated his alignment with globalization.


If you want to stick your fingers in your ears, cover your eyes or bury your head in the sand, thats your prerogative. However, that does not make you right.

By the way, there are an exponentially growing number of us "nutters".


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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 2:26 am 
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A. the weapons were never verified to exist, only believed to exist.
B. the war was illegal, it never went through the proper process and instead was rushed and broke conventions.
C. people oppose war all the time for various reasons. i doubt that opposing the war would result in the label of conspiracy nut.


The war was wrong, for these reasons yes. But the fact that this war was also for natural resources aka oil, and to establish other American businesses like weapons sales, services provided to the US army etc, cannot be ignored. Basically, the new world order theory might be a bit far fetched and unrealistic today, but the fact that corporate dominance aka strategic interests, WERE and still ARE a major reason for wars and regime changes in the middle east cannot be ignored.


you will find that very little oil is coming to USA from iraq.
i think it was more for influence in the middle east.

imperialism is NWO.

Seth. NWO =/= globalisation. globalisation is inevitable as borders weaken and trade is encouraged. the internet and planes have meant people and information flow from one country to another easier than every before. globalisation has been happening for as long as humans started sailing and spreading their culture elsewhere.

NWO is a ridiculous notion that a totalitarian one world government will arise. more often then not, the faceless elites in power are jews. its modern anti semitism shrouded in paranoia.

you hear them scream, IMPLANT CHIPS, DEATH CAMPS, FLUORIDE IN OUR WATER TO CONTROL OUR BRAINS.
reasonable people, skeptical people brush them off as their claims are without support.

you forget that even in an unified country, it can be split into factions of cultures. people are far more likely to align themselves with their perceived country/culture/ideals then an ambiguous mega country.
in short. globalisation for another 100 years. growth for another 100 years. bring most countries up to a developed standard of living for at least an entire lifetime so the older values die out as the older generation die out (this has been seen with many values and ideals over the years, you need to wait for the old stubborn people to die for the new values to be taken up). then a single unified world can be created. but currently? heck no. its impossible, even if forced, it will fracture within days regardless the amount of force and brutality you use.

i dont just reject the NWO conspiarcy because its nutters, i reject it because human nature will not allow for it. not yet at least.

ultimately, i dont even think a single nation is that profitable, you need competition for rapid growth.

that said, the recent problems of europe show that the EU grouping is not that successful and that many countries have to take a gamble if they are going to support one another to protect the shared currency.

in short globalisation cant be stopped, you need to fully censor the internet and make most countries like north korea to halt it and even then with the number of immigrants in most countries taken into account, it might not make a significant difference.

NWO is crazy talk for crazy people.

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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
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you will find that very little oil is coming to USA from iraq.
i think it was more for influence in the middle east.


Of course its not to take oil for the United states. Its for business. Imagine, you control their oil fields, and because of war the prices of oil increases, you get to control supply and demand, and therefore you make money. That is the objective.

Imperialism is what it is. Lets review similarities between British imperialism and American imperialism.

Back in the day, how did Britain successfully conquer India? They did so, because India was divided into princely states. They first came to India to do Trade. In the form of the East India Company. East India Company, wherever it found resources like Coal for example (India is one of those with large reserves of coal), they used to establish themselves, and would enjoy the patronage of local princes. They used to bribe them, turn one state against another etc., thereby dividing and ruling effectively.

If you fast forward to today, the US does the same. Regime changes, tons of money given to friendly royal families in the middle east like Saudi, UAE etc, in return for access to their resources. Those who dont support suffer war and invasions.

Apart from that I dont really believe in science fiction stuff like implants or death camps (though Gitmo is no different if you think about it - it is indeed a concentration camp...well almost) or fluoride contamination etc.,

The imperialism is very real though.

Also I do agree, that globalization cannot really be done away with. Globalization is what got America and the rest of the world to where they are today. Globalization therefore should exist. People from various cultures should come together and learn to coexist. Many people also dont favor globalization because they hate multiculturalism, which is another consequence of globalization. I do view multiculturalism positively though, as long as people remember the saying - "Be a roman in Rome" :D

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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 4:15 pm 
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I highly dislike president Obama. Mostly because of Obama care.

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I highly dislike president Obama. Mostly because of Obama care.


Ya who likes the fact that everyone is required to get Health Insurance so that taxpayers don't have to pay for there constant visits to the UC and ER. Zomg curse you Obama for making Healthcare affordable and required!

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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:02 pm 
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Nameless, faceless, NWO conspiracy?

Right then. I guess it takes some legit sources saying it to add a face to it, right?


Globalizm and NWO not the same thing, eh? Quite the contrary, the ARE the same thing.



Listen to Bush Sr. say, "When we are successful, and we will be...".
Can't accuse him of being faceless, now can you?



Let's hop across the pond for a bite from Tony Blair advocating the NWO:



Back to the states for an open interview with Henry Kissenger



George Soros



A mashup of SEVERAL folks talking about the NWO with a good sound track (should save me time and effort posting more videos for you):



I could go on and on and on. In this age, there is simply no excuse other than willful ignorance of them, to deny the existance of this "order".

Thats alright though. I don't blame you for refusing to believe it. I dont really wanna believe it either. My own life has been somewhat touched by these organizations, which opened my eyes to their existance at a young age. I did not in any way, set out to be some sort of "conspiracy nut", and even though I recognize all of this, I simply cannot let it run my life, or I will go mad. At the same time, I cannot do as you do, and simply will it out of my mind.

Whatever though, you know? Refusing to believe they exist does not make them, or their plans and intentions, go away. The order comes, whether you believe it or not.

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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:26 pm 
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I highly dislike president Obama. Mostly because of Obama care.


Ya who likes the fact that everyone is required to get Health Insurance so that taxpayers don't have to pay for there constant visits to the UC and ER. Zomg curse you Obama for making Healthcare affordable and required![/quote]
Obama is taking our freedoms away he can't just tell me that I have to buy something.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:03 pm 
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I highly dislike president Obama. Mostly because of Obama care.


Ya who likes the fact that everyone is required to get Health Insurance so that taxpayers don't have to pay for there constant visits to the UC and ER. Zomg curse you Obama for making Healthcare affordable and required!

Obama is taking our freedoms away he can't just tell me that I have to buy something.


Freedom to rob taxpayers because you are too greedy to pay a low monthly fee for health insurance. Please get out of my country. Did America also take away your freedom when talking on a cellphone while driving was made illegal? Think of the greater good before you blow your angry steam at one person out of personal hate.

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 Post subject: Re: Un-biased Fact on Obama
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No need to yell at AceSoldier, but one thing to remember is that everyone needs medical insurance. You are worried about paying your monthly premiums, what if you get hit by a car and need a brain surgery and you dont have neither the money nor insurance? As you get older you will understand that you need insurance. More and more. Nothing wrong about mandating someone to buy it. IMO.

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Why dont you get out of my country this is a free country. Obama care now whats next?

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