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 Post subject: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:52 pm 
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Don't let this first sentence stray you away. But I'm starting to believe in the illuminati.

First thing - http://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantrepo ... d-history/

A hell of a lot of significant people in history can be found in pictures or portraits with their right hand in their coat/shirt. Coincidence, right?

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“Many theories have been presented as to why Napoleon is traditionally depicted with his hand in his waistcoat. Some of these theories include: he had a stomach ulcer, he was winding his watch, he had an itchy skin disease, in his era it was impolite to put your hands in your pockets, he had breast cancer, he had a deformed hand, he kept a perfumed sachet in his vest that he’d sniff surreptitiously, and that painters don’t like to paint hands”
-Tom Holmberg


Unless all the individuals discussed in this article had stomach ulcer or deformed hands, the gesture of hiding one’s hand simply has to have a specific meaning. It does. Most of the people using this sign are proven (and often enthusiastic) members of the Freemasons. Considering the great importance of this gesture in Masonic rituals and the fact that all of the elite were either part of Freemasonry or knew of it, it is simply impossible that the recurrence of this sign could be the result of a coincidence. The “hidden hand” can, in fact, be found in the rituals of the Royal Arch Degree of Freemasonry and the world leaders that use this sign are subtly saying to other initiates of the order: “This is what I’m part of, this is what I believe in and this is what I’m working for”.


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Second thing - The music industry



I have a feeling he's not talking about a big music producer.

Next. 2pac.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Don_Ki ... Day_Theory

I don't know about you, but I've never seen a rapper put songs like "Hail Mary", "Blasphemy" and "Lost Souls". Isn't it a little odd that 2pac made a term that literally meant kill illuminati popular, and then he got shot by unknown assailants?

What about the songs?

http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eminem/mydarling.html

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Always thought if you was gonna murder somebody you should face em
Tell em why, look them dead in the eye, then waste em
And the dark shall emerge from the fiery depths of hell
And swallow the shell of the hollow who dwell
And the shadows of all who are willing to sell
Their souls, for this rap game, and it g-g-goes
123, 123, 123, that ain't the hook, now follow me
There's nothing else for me to say, my public adores me
Everybody bores me, they're just so corny
So at night before I sleep, I look in the mirror
The mirror grows lips and it whispers "Come nearer"


You don't have to be religious at all to know that that's *CENSORED* up.

Finally: http://100musicalfootsteps.wordpress.co ... lluminati/

Really. I get that you might think this is paranoid *CENSORED*. But if you do the research on it and open your mind, it would be ridiculous not to believe. Byez.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:28 pm 
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the hidden hand is not illuminati it is a freemason thing... I am actually looking into joining the freemasons.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
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And the other stuff?


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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:46 am 
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I'm starting to believe in the illuminati.

Of course you are. You're 13 and you have alot of free time to browse the internet.

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A hell of a lot of significant people in history can be found in pictures or portraits with their right hand in their coat/shirt. Coincidence, right?

There are alot of significant people in the present have their right hand raised in a waving position in pictures. Dun dun DUNNN!

Also, there are alot of picturse of girls doing a duckface. Quick, get your tinfoil hats on!


I didn't read the rest of your post, as you can probably tell.


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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:29 am 
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im bored of the illuminati thing. freemasons are surprisingly easy to get in on.

for example, i went to a semi prestigious high school and leavers from there (99% of us take on tertiary education) are invited into the freemasons through various liasons. i wont join because i would probably show the secret handshake and password while drunk but it is there. its not well hidden, just out of sight, and its not drinking blood out of skulls.

oh and 95%+ of the members are above the age of 30 despite this little chapter looking for young members to join.

that said, im pretty sure people who want to look important for portraits being done see old, FAMOUS portraits of people with their hand in their pockets and copy them.

as for that bob dylan vid, the commenters on that youtube page almost made me bleed to death from the facepalms. 2 accusations he was working with zionists, 4 comments about not accepting jesus = hell, 2 people who just think he has taken too many drugs. in short.

2pac thing makes no sense.

the thing with doing research on it is that sometimes the internet is full of s***. and if you 'open your mind' without critically analyzing, without being a skeptical, clinical, turd about it, you will begin to accept a lot of s***. if you accept enough of it, if you allow enough of it to slide through the filters, if you let smooth talkers make good arguments but not good facts, then you are setting yourself up for a lifetime of drinking as a hobo with a tin foil hat.

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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
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Me and my friends have a secret handshake. First you raise your left eyebrow, move your right hand out to shake, once the hands touch, slide your thumb to touch the knuckle of your own index finger, and as this happens you put your left hand into the other persons pants and gra-- well, I'll not give away the secret :)


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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:42 pm 
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The Illuminati is very real. Some folks can attach a stigma to you and accuse you of being a "conspiracy freak" or of wearing "tinfoil hats", but the fact of the matter is that there are people whom have devoted their entire lives toward finding the facts about these elitists factions and families, and it really is not hard to do. Especially in this day and age with the freedom of the Internet.

So, you know, look into it. Educate yourself. Don't get all obsessive about it and let it run your life, but if you want to find signs of the New World Order and what exactly the Illuminati is, you need only look around.

To not try to peer behind the curtain and understand it is to bury your head in that sand and claim ignorance as being the supreme righteousness. To ridicule one asking questions about it is to make an example of oneself of just how ignorant people can be. Some folks will deny anything and everything they know to be true just to make it easier for themselves to accept the world around them.

As for the Freemasons, they are an age-old secret society who practice creepy pagan rituals behind closed doors. Some Christians may even argue that these rituals are satanic in nature, and if you happen to get in on one, you may be hard pressed to disagree. Ive been inside of two temples (although they were in both cases, empty at the time) and have talked to a few people about it when I myself was interested in joining.

Ive known plenty of people who were both good and bad people and were Freemasons, so I do not believe the thing necessarily makes the man. It is usually someone seeking a greater understanding of the world around them, as well as some sense of belonging. Hell, it could in that respect, be equated to joining a gang. Only this gang practices ancient pagan rituals and "Scottish rites", is very secretive, and is older, larger and more organized than any other gang in history. Believe me, I see the appeal.

However, the symbolisms are everywhere. The very streets of the USA capitol are laid out in eerie occult patterns including the compass and blade of the Freemasons, the pyramid and eye of Horus of the Illuminati and more!

The pyramid being a dominant symbol of the Illuminati, it shows how much of their ways can be traced back to biblical days of Egyptians and Hebrews. The Egyptian symbolism will come up time and again if you investigate this. Once you see it, its hard to close your eyes to it. Even in recent events in the media, you can begin to see the symbolism all over the place.

When I stand back and say it to myself, it even sounds unbelievable now..but then I turn on the TV for a while, or just stop to take a good look around at current things, and I see it all around. Even with monuments that have been around for ages... Here are a few great examples:



Image Old map showing street layout of Washington D.C., of which George Washington personally assisted in engineering. George washington was a noted freemason of the 33rd degree.


Examples of an Egyptian Obelisk in important places around the world.

Image The Washington Monument shows classic Obelisk in a circle representing the god & goddess in Egyptian Mythology.

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Again in Vatican Square..

And then there is always
"Cleopatra's Needle" in London.
Image Click the link above the image for an interesting story about this on and the other 2 obelisks of note entailed in the storyline...

ImageThe famed Glastonbury stage.

Jay Z, His clothing line, and his wife's recent performance at the Grammys

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Jay Z imitating the pyramid & eye of horus. Its worthy of note that he refers to himself in short as "Jay Hova", mocking one of the widely known names of God.

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A fine example of aforementioned symbolism in Jay Z's "Rockawear" clothing line. Also entailing Egyptian, Freemason as well as Illuminati symbolism.

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I mean really, I could go on and on, but it really is up to you to look around, or not look around.

If you choose to not look around, and refuse to see the world around you for what it is, that is your prerogative. I would hardly call it wise to ridicule those who seek a greater understanding.

As far as what the Illuminati is, good or evil, well that is not for me to say. I do believe in God, not necessarily in a book about God which was written and printed by man. This in and of itself I see a conflict of interest.

These families and organizations certainly do believe in God as well in one form or another. Personally, I view all of the creepy occult side of these organizations as just that. Creepy. They adhere to these wierd symbols and mythologies with an unprecedented zeal, and in many cases are very exclusive and eletist! The creepiest examples of which would be the Bohemian Club, Bilderberg Group, Skull & Bones Society, and yes, the Freemasons.

It could be argued that all of the above are merely fraternities of the Illuminati. In fact, if you trawl around enough, you will find that even the Masons themselves refer to themselves as a fraternity, certainly not as the "lead" or "founders" of their organization and beliefs. That is certainly food for thought!

I personally agree with JFK, in that in a free and open society, these secretive organizations are repugnant. He sought to expose the dealings and meanderings of these secret societies within our government, as well as the world over. We see where that got him...

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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:01 pm 
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I admit I rambled on with the 2pac thing... but there's a definite connection between him and the illuminati. As Seth pointed out, JFK was assassinated and he was trying to expose the illuminati. Same as 2pac. Doesn't it strike you as odd that they never found who killed him?

From his song good life:

"I sold my soul for a chance to kick it and bang
Now tell if I'm wrong
but sayin "*CENSORED* the world" got you deeper in my songs
Drinkin 'til I earl, spendin money 'til it's gone
It's the good life - maybe niggaz got it goin on"

"why I should change, into a softie
.. after living so loftily
It cost me my soul out of control in a devil's world"


From DMX's song let me fly:

"I sold my soul to the devil, and the price was cheap A yo it's cold on this level cause it's twice as deep But you don't hear me, ignorance is blisning and so on
Sometimes it's better to be taught dumb
Shall I go on
You don't want no real, what the deal is a mystery
How is it I can live and make history
If you don't see it then it, wasn't meant for you to see
If you wasn't born wit' it then, it wasn't meant for you to be
But you can't blame me for not wantin' to be hound
lock down in a cell wit' a soul gettin' dwelled
This is hell, go get the devil and get me the key
but can't be worst than the curse that was given ta me
It's what I live for, you take away that and I'm gone "





So right off the bat, you have one of the biggest rap artists in history and possibly the most successful musician of all time talking about the devil and conspiracies.



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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2012 6:54 pm 
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MEH ...dont care about that Lunatic Stuff...

Magic... can happen only in anime ...

^ the reason why ilove anime ^

and Devil/God ... stop kidding me ... i Presume some of you are Beliving in god bu i hink it's a story for kids


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 Post subject: Re: I'm actually starting to believe in it...
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I actually don't believe in the devil or God. I'm simply pointing out that music artists appear to have some sort of thing about selling their soul/talking about selling their soul.


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